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Meitro
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary AB
Politics and DJing...

Hey everyone... I'm new to this forum, but I'll keep the introduction short.

I'm 19 years old and am just starting to get booked regularily at clubs in my hometown. I love every second I'm on stage. The energy exchange between yourself and an audience is something truly powerful that I hope everyone on this forum will have the opportunity to experience many times in their lifetime.

Anyway, I have a question for those who have been doing this for a while: How the fuck do you deal with the dickwad dj/promoter/agent?

I was an opening act for a headliner (whose name I wont bother mentioning). I promoted the hell out of this show, selling nearly 300 tickets (which is a sizeable contribution given the size of the venue being about 900) As I was driving down to the club before the show I get a call from my promoter saying that not only will my set be cut nearly in half, but the other local who was on after me was getting his set cut completely.

Do I have a right to be upset? What can I do to ensure this kind of thing wont happen again?

-M


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orTofønChiLd
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Registered: Feb 2008
Location: Miami

you can shut your mouth and do wut your told

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Meitro
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Registered: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary AB

quote:
Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
you can shut your mouth and do wut your told


no u


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mfitterer1
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Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Oregon
Re: Politics and DJing...

quote:
Originally posted by Meitro
Hey everyone... I'm new to this forum, but I'll keep the introduction short.

I'm 19 years old and am just starting to get booked regularily at clubs in my hometown. I love every second I'm on stage. The energy exchange between yourself and an audience is something truly powerful that I hope everyone on this forum will have the opportunity to experience many times in their lifetime.

Anyway, I have a question for those who have been doing this for a while: How the fuck do you deal with the dickwad dj/promoter/agent?

I was an opening act for a headliner (whose name I wont bother mentioning). I promoted the hell out of this show, selling nearly 300 tickets (which is a sizeable contribution given the size of the venue being about 900) As I was driving down to the club before the show I get a call from my promoter saying that not only will my set be cut nearly in half, but the other local who was on after me was getting his set cut completely.

Do I have a right to be upset? What can I do to ensure this kind of thing wont happen again?

-M


Out him publicly. Everyone who was big was once small. Challenge him to a battle or something. Embarrass the shit out of him. But that's me, I'm a ****, you may be more civilized

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woscar
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Registered: Nov 2004
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They are paying you, not the other way around


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mfitterer1
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Location: Oregon

quote:
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They are paying you, not the other way around


Who the fuck djs for money anymore?! LOL

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Tony Morello
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Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

who are you and where are you playing?

PM me


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Demoted
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Registered: Jun 2009
Location: CrackDen

Call him to discuss the matter personally. When the time arrives, walk in naked, with a a boner and smile.

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DJ RANN
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....
Re: Politics and DJing...

quote:
Originally posted by Meitro
Hey everyone... I'm new to this forum, but I'll keep the introduction short.

I'm 19 years old and am just starting to get booked regularily at clubs in my hometown. I love every second I'm on stage. The energy exchange between yourself and an audience is something truly powerful that I hope everyone on this forum will have the opportunity to experience many times in their lifetime.

Anyway, I have a question for those who have been doing this for a while: How the fuck do you deal with the dickwad dj/promoter/agent?

I was an opening act for a headliner (whose name I wont bother mentioning). I promoted the hell out of this show, selling nearly 300 tickets (which is a sizeable contribution given the size of the venue being about 900) As I was driving down to the club before the show I get a call from my promoter saying that not only will my set be cut nearly in half, but the other local who was on after me was getting his set cut completely.

Do I have a right to be upset? What can I do to ensure this kind of thing wont happen again?

-M


Well, some promoters take the piss, but you've got to realize that if the headliner threw a shit fit at the promoter because he wanted more time, who is his priority?

I wouldn't out anyone publicly as you don't know the full story and pissing people off is a sure fire way to get blacklisted in your town.

The best one I've seen was a mate was playing in a large bar/small club, with about 300 people there. The promoter tells him he has to cut his set down to half because the other DJ wants to get warmed up and have a longer set. This had happened the week before and he took it and said whatever. This time it happened, he grabbed all his shit and shouted "lets go" to the crowd and the 150 odd people he'd brought down all instantly left, leaving the bar really sparse which meant the atmophere died and all the other people left as well.

Next day he gets a call from the promoter offering him the permanent headline slot which he doesn't agree to until he's got double the paycheck.

Promoters pay attention to numbers more than anything else. You only power as a beginner is (sadly) how many people you bring when you play and how many they'll miss out on if you don't. Even in large clubs, if you can bring 300+ people to any club they'll give you a slot and pay you for it.

But whatever you do, don't let that promoter book you again without explaining the situation. You don;t have to bite his head off - be diplomatic about it - but just explain that you sold a lot of tickets and a huge crew of people were coming to see you (not his club or the other DJ's). Tell him you're building a following and a reputation which can't be done if he cuts you're playing time.

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lenazi
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Registered: Jul 2009
Location: 40lbs box of rape.

people pay to see headliners, not opening acts. This situation might suck, but sometimes compromising and getting another gig is better than getting butthurt and never getting booked again.

this type of thing happens in more jobs than just dj'ing. it is all about assessing your priorities.

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orTofønChiLd
Everything is illuminated



Registered: Feb 2008
Location: Miami

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
Call him to discuss the matter personally. When the time arrives, walk in naked, with a a boner and smile.


good one

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DiscoStew
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Registered: Mar 2007
Location: Dirty South
Re: Politics and DJing...

quote:
Originally posted by Meitro
How the fuck do you deal with the dickwad dj/promoter/agent?


Is there any other type?


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