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vascotia
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Drammen, Norway
The Anti-dj-mag poll - thread!

The annual Anti DJ-mag poll- thread!

Nowadays DJs are superstars, and has all the power atm;

By:

- Supporting and handpicking out their personal favourite producers, simply based upon styles, inviting them to their shows, in other words chose who will get hyped and who doesnt!
- DJs getting bigger and bigger, and can charge as much as big rock bands in 1 live gig, simply playing mostly other peoples tracks.
- Fans idolize these djs, and uncritically automatically idolize everything they stand for, including what tracks they play ie.
- Djs are indirectly dictating what different styles\arrangments will get popular, by supporting certain artists\tracks based up on their own personal taste?!
- This leads to them indirectly dictating what music\style\arrangment should will get popular and not.
- This excludes some artists that doesnt fall into ie Armin or Tiesto`s personal referance\taste.
- This leads to some newcomers to copy ie Above & Beyond, Aly & Fila , cause its their only ticket to success.
- This leads to artists that are supported by certain profiled djs automatically get more popular than others simply of that reason.
- This leads to those artists directly getting more popular in amount of weeks, than other artists being in the game for much longer - not cause they make better music, but simply cause they picked the "right" style.
- djs copying other djs to succeed (ie Tiesto vs Armin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSRKNJ4aFFQ).
- This leads to producers avoid doing a personal style, cause of these factors mentioned..- leads to the music evolving slowly, and leads to overflood of ie Deadmau5 styled tracks, a&b sounding tracks.
-this leads to instead of the fans searching for tracks\finding their music on their own thru a desert of these copy-tracks cause it takes too much time, - they rather find music thru dj playlists - which completes the spiral.


Thats why to me DJ mag poll is only contributing in a negative way for the scene.


I illustrated this in an old thread about the trance scene a couple of years back (which got huge support btw):

"Djs get hooked up in one particular style\standard sound/arrangement and support it nomatter how bad\good the track is (they got their taste just like me and you). But the djs indirectly sort of dictates what style should be popular or not. And as we know so many fans look up to those djs as some sort of superstars, the fans get so hooked up in this style, that its leading to the particular subgenre\style getting hyped, and not the particular track\theme. I got many examples of artists i think is popular cause of style they produce, not wether their music is well written.. this is not black and white either. but ive seen this a lot... But in the end, its what the trance fans look at, and so do labels. The problem is that if you dont produce "the right" style, and dont get played by armin or tiesto, then you will not get remix-requests from big labels, so practically the djs "Tastes" are indirectly shaping how the trance will evolve..and further how you "should" produce to succeed. "



Any thoughts on this?





did you think this was interesting, read this:
http://trance.nu/v4/forum/viewtopic...highlight=kambo

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Acton
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Do we really have to do this every year?


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vascotia
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quote:
Originally posted by Acton
Do we really have to do this every year?


yes!

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Konijn
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Re: The Anti-dj-mag poll - thread!

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Originally posted by vascotia

- Djs are indirectly dictating what different styles\arrangments will get popular, by supporting certain artists\tracks based up on their own personal taste?!


indeed; djs should only spin music they dislike.


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Sykonee
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I think most here would rather just ignore the poll and those who seek to profit from it.


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Oh, I was just going here to share my frustration over an mailbox with 8 emails (arriving the same day), all telling me to vote for random DJ's, i dont give a f*ck about Bobina or other DJ slags.

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Originally posted by Sinnica Hax
Oh, I was just going here to share my frustration over an mailbox with 8 emails (arriving the same day), all telling me to vote for random DJ's, i dont give a f*ck about Bobina or other DJ slags.



EXACTLY! FUCK YOU BOBINA YOU FAT FUCK AND FUCK YOU SIED VAN RIEL YOU FUCKING IDIOT!


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daphunky1
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Originally posted by Sykonee
I think most here would rather just ignore the poll and those who seek to profit from it.


Obviously for the majority of us "rockstar djs" is not our scene and we seek music out well beyond the top few dj's playlists so we need not worry about this.

I just can't understand how being for example number 3 on the djmag poll can lead to flyers saying "the number 3 dj in the world".

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Sykonee
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quote:
Originally posted by daphunky1
Obviously for the majority of us "rockstar djs" is not our scene and we seek music out well beyond the top few dj's playlists so we need not worry about this.

I just can't understand how being for example number 3 on the djmag poll can lead to flyers saying "the number 3 dj in the world".

I've seen rankings as low as 50 used as selling points on flyers.


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Mr.Mystery
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quote:
Originally posted by Sinnica Hax
Oh, I was just going here to share my frustration over an mailbox with 8 emails (arriving the same day), all telling me to vote for random DJ's, i dont give a f*ck about Bobina or other DJ slags.

That is what one deserves for entering their email address everywhere.


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Re: The Anti-dj-mag poll - thread!

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Originally posted by vascotia

Any thoughts on this?



You focus to much on Armin and Tiesto and by that making them just bigger.


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i'm really disappointed because a spam thread of some aly & fila dj mag promo video got deleted but god dammit i'm going to post my response here because it's RELEVANT

quote:
it was actually completely worthless and self-indulgent. thanks for the useless clipreel of yet another dj getting the crowd to put their hands in the fuckin' air as another cheesy supersaw anthem blasts through the loudspeakers

also egypt is the second-worst country in the middle east behind israel, hope this helps

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