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iTranscendence
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Exclamation WAV vs MP3, the showdown

SCM posted this over at isratrance, thought it was worth sharing here.
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch/work...mp3-showdown-hq

Can you tell which group of samples is which with just your ears? I know that I've sat for hours myself, doing it with the exact same songs, at different compressions out of Sennheiser hd 555's and was hard pressed to spot a "candles difference" in the sound.


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Chimney
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Can hear the difference between 320 and FLAC, but not between 256 and 320.

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trancechan
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quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
Can hear the difference between 320 and FLAC, but not between 256 and 320.


yep.

FLAC (or in my case apple lossless, lol itunes) tickles your ears

...

sexually.

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Real
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The sound quality of FLAC is absolutely identical to WAV. I'm impressed if you can hear the difference between a FLAC/WAV and a 320kbps mp3.


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quote:
Originally posted by Real
The sound quality of FLAC is absolutely identical to WAV. I'm impressed if you can hear the difference between a FLAC/WAV and a 320kbps mp3.
FLAC is nice,but I can tell the difference FLAC & WAV.There's still a good chunk of data missing which would make dent with miniscule .mp3

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stealthman
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Creating this thread in the first place is dumb.

I recommend you get an ear check at your nearest doctor methinks.

The sound quality of a wav file is distincly improved over an mp3. Listen to the difference on a PROPER audio setup and you'll feel that the track actually has more "Oomph" to it, and the higher frequencies actually sound cleaner, unlike mp3's compression. Yes, I'm talking about 320kpbs. Just gotta analyse the difference a little more.

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Real
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quote:
Originally posted by Syntonic
FLAC is nice,but I can tell the difference FLAC & WAV.There's still a good chunk of data missing which would make dent with miniscule .mp3


No, you are wrong.

quote:
Free Lossless Audio Codec (FLAC) is a file format for lossless audio data compression. During compression, FLAC does not lose quality from the audio stream, as lossy compression formats such as MP3, AAC, and Vorbis do.


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You pick up this working girl who's hooked on smack, who hussles and scores. "That's all I do" she says, she says "Ten bucks for head, fifteen for half-and-half". She says "Three hits a day at 35 per", you say "That's seven tricks a day at least", but she says "Sometimes I get lucky. Once this guy gives me a bill-and-half just to eat me, only time I ever came".
You figure you can save her. You sell your color tv, that keeps her off the streets a whole day. You hawk your typewriter for one jolt. Then your shotgun, your watch. A week later you say "Listen I'm a little short", but she says "No scratch, no snatch". You say "Look it is better to give", but she says "Beat off creep".
One night they spot you on the street in your skibbies trying to sell your shoes. You tell them who you are, but they nail you. Then she happens by and she says "Christ you look fucked", she says "Hang tough!". But you don't say anything, you just think "what a bum rap for a nice, sensitive guy like me".

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vinnie97
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quote:
Originally posted by Syntonic
FLAC is nice,but I can tell the difference FLAC & WAV.There's still a good chunk of data missing which would make dent with miniscule .mp3



Have you ever had the contents of a zip file not decompress to their original size (if they didn't, you'd have corrupted files!)? Case closed.

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vinnie97
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quote:
Originally posted by stealthman Just gotta analyse the difference a little more.

The only ANALysis needed is a double-blind listening (ABX) test, easy to arrange on any PC.

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iTranscendence
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quote:
Originally posted by stealthman
Creating this thread in the first place is dumb.

I recommend you get an ear check at your nearest doctor methinks.

The sound quality of a wav file is distincly improved over an mp3. Listen to the difference on a PROPER audio setup and you'll feel that the track actually has more "Oomph" to it, and the higher frequencies actually sound cleaner, unlike mp3's compression. Yes, I'm talking about 320kpbs. Just gotta analyse the difference a little more.


I have great hearing, thanks for your concern though. I didn't say it wasn't noticeable, just that you have to listen very hard to hear it.


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Flec
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quote:
Have you ever had the contents of a zip file not decompress to their original size (if they didn't, you'd have corrupted files!)? Case closed.



it does not work this way for mp3s bro,


if you take an mp3 that was encoded at 128kbps and then transcode it to anything higher nothing will be improved

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Zak McKracken
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i can hear the difference on tracks i know from i was younger (like Prodigy - Music for the Jilted Generation), but i cant with todays music as it is heavily compressed even before mp3 convertion. I think wav sounds as shitty as mp3 today.

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