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dig2k
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: UK
RIAA after file sharers now

Just seen this today. Now the RIAA wants to arrest users with the largest shares on file swapping services

http://www.msnbc.com/news/775684.asp?cp1=1

Old Post Jul-04-2002 21:56  Europe
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Sarcoman
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto (Mississauga)

There was a thread in the Music Discussion forum about this article that was started yesterday.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=54308

Can you imagine the RIAA in a lawsuit suing millions of people at a time. Even if they only go for the 10% of sharers that share the most music, they will still have to go after a lot of people. When will they run out of their Law budget...


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Old Post Jul-04-2002 23:22  Canada
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torontotrance
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Registered: Apr 2001
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I'm not sure, the RIAA is ready for the BACKLASH!.....it will backfire in their faces.

Old Post Jul-04-2002 23:28  Canada
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jp
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Holland

They cant find me, and if they do I will let my dog rip their asses apart..!

Old Post Jul-04-2002 23:31  Netherlands
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igottaknow
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: The Future
Idea I love the RIAA

I think the RIAA should crack down on a large infamous organization that I know of. It has no respect for copy rights and distributes movie, music, and literature freely without charging for royalities. I hope they can shut it down before it does any more damage to the music and entertainment industry. Btw, I think you all know who I'm talking about, yes the Public Library.

I know you might be thinking that this problem is too large to do any thing about but we can all do our part by properly desposes of any copyright material we are finished with, so no one else can "steal" corporate profits. I'm also working on a special ink that disolves after it's viewed so books can only be read once. I'm also concerned that artist are being hurt by "repeat offenders" who listen to songs many times without compensating the artist. If you have any other ideas please send them directly to the RIAA so they can help those starving artist.


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Mail Man
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Glasgow

they are taking it to far. Ok suing the guys who made the file sharing apps i can understand but y target individuals? The people who crack down on copied software only arrest the people that sell the copied cds, they dont arrest the person who buys the cds.

The RIAA will be biting off more than they can chew if the start suing more and more people..

With the money the RIAA make from suing where does that cash go?

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Rostros
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: United Kingdom

The RIAA are idiots in everymind , they are just after fatter profts so the wages get increased so they all can afford to get haircuts. Ok so mr policeman is at my door and he is gonna send me down with the rapist and murderers coz i had a few mp3's on my PC, when theres people breaking into my fukin car a stealing it , the RIAA are knobs in every sense, its just like recording off the radio ffs , they should blame the person who created mp3's in the first place, piracy is getting bigger and bigger and no one can stop it. As soon as Minidisc and Mp3 players come down in price its gonna explode esp the new Nokia phones which can hold mp3 data.
I belive the music industrt will start to see a decrease in 5 years , new bands are making no money from number 1 singles as the record company has 72% of all profits i think , i know the pop music is shite anyway but still kids buy it. Digital Radio is gonna have a bog effect aswell , people hosting there own radio stations from winamp , this is so ilegal but hey , you all made it this way !!!

,. Humans create machines, machines control humans , evolution rzR .,


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HyPeRSoNiC
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Yavne, Israel

RIAA are idiots!!! they can't do anything to those ppl!!!!
and I don't even think they can find them.......
and I think they know already that they can never stopp P2P sharing
I'm sharing like crazy!!!!
RIAA wanna sue me? TRY ME!!!! I'll beat u all like a bad monkey!!!!


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vmc
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Poland

they can suck my friend !!!


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evil_bastard
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RIAA aren't interested in music at all.

Rather than a buoyant and competitive music industry, full of producers, artists, bands, none of whom have a massive monopoly, where there is plenty of music available, they want an industry where only a few artists make MEGA high salaries, smaller artists find it difficult getting their music heard at all, let alone by record labels, and only a few hugely successful artists get a piece of the pie.

Competition is one of the few great benefits of capitalism. It has forced companies to improve technology, the quality of their goods, their service, and their prices, which all benefits the consumer. The music industry is not like this at all. £15 or $15 for a CD, this would not happen if the industry was competitive. But since file sharing has been a phenomenon, competition has grown, from where I'm standing. I would say the music industry is more competitive than ever.

Millions of people have been file sharing all over the world for some 5 years now, and the industry hasn't shown any signs of getting worse...

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evil_bastard
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Originally posted by Vesa
It would be good to remember that consumers have all the power in music sales. Vinyl collectors can survive without buying so many records. DJs are playing vinyls instead of burned CDs at clubs mostly because of long-standing gentleman rules (to support legal rights of artists). And our lives would only be slightly worse off if we missed a small number of trance tracks from artist X and label Y. So the point I'm trying to make is that we are buying music because we are polite enough to support musical art, not because we have to.

But the artists and labels will suffer a lot if they piss off file swappers who are most likely to be their most biggest buyers (why else would they target so much energy into swapping unless they were also serious vinyl addicts). The swappers have most knowledge, power and influence in the virtual underground of electronica. If we decided to ignore the artists, they would get neither money, fame or girls, so they would be just lousy ordinary guys.

If there would be actions against individual file swappers of electronica, I would immediately drop my record buying by 50%, and progressively more and more (to reduce record sales as a punishment) until the labels understand who really has the power in this game. The consumer is the king when buying non-essential commodities!

The world of electronica would be a lousy place without swapping. Swapping makes it democratic because having many tracks and broad knowledge depends only on enthusiasm and love of music. If there wasn't swapping, things would become very elitistic. There would only be a small number of cocky indivuals (DJ's friends) who have the newest promos and rare old tracks. People would spend their time trying to get into the inside circles, instead of listening and loving trance music.

Moreover, actions to stop mp3 swapping would destroy the heritage of electronica. When I heard AG might get shut down, I spent lots of time finding out how many old tracks from 1998-1999 were still on AG. The conclusion was that only a modest percentage of tracks older than 3 years were available anymore. The shutdown of AG made things worse, and the likely result is that tracks made before 2000 will completely vanish from the collective memory of trance community. Instead of being preserved and treasured, the work of those artists is gone like it had never existed. So the labels and artists who oppose mp3 swapping are hurting mostly themselves because in a couple of years their music will be forgotten.

We can only hope RIAA will keep its attention on pop music, so that the world of electronica should stay as innocent and joyful as it has been (including lots of enthusiastic swapping of rare old tracks).


Give this man a cigar! Excellent points.

I got into trance music properly through the internet. Before that, I had only ever heard of Ferry Corsten, Tiesto, PvD, Darude and maybe a couple more. Within a few months of discovering trance music on the net I know tonnes of smaller artists.

Without mp3s, most people entering the genre will only know about Ferry Corsten, PVD, and a couple others, those artists will become extremely rich (more so than now) and their music will enter the mainstream. In effect, trance could die.

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