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Scottaculous
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Registered: Mar 2001
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Japan, what happened?

Once, you were the land of badasses. In this land were samurais, seppukus, ninjas, and kamikazes. Now educated women scare you?



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The sensitive New Age man has finally arrived in the land of the salaryman. But there is a catch — a particularly important one in Japan, where the declining birthrate has caused alarm: The new Japanese man doesn't appear to be interested in women or sex.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/...816&sc=fb&cc=fp

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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

So, what's exactly new about it?


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Joss Weatherby
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Japanese culture is fucked. Stereotypes die hard but changes in popular social culture are never ending, so people end up doing things they like only to feel like the collective opinion of them is bad and that they are not worthy.

Things like the herbivore men are probably as not wide spread as they seem from the media reporting in the US. There is a major issue though with low birth rates in the country and a rapidly rising aged population. There is also reports (can't remember the source, it was CNN a couple years ago I believe) that a growing percentage of all Japanese youth feel disaffected by their culture and are actually in some circumstance becoming angry about it.

You can see some of this change affecting their elections, the LDP was defeated for the first time in a major way since the end of WW2. Essentially up to that point Japan was a one party system for all intents and purposes. The LDP was a good old boys club that generally was steeped in its cultural view of Japanese society, which included strong, almost fascist ties to business. Now you have more varied parties (though they are LDP spin-offs) coming into power. This is a big change. These miniority parties for the most part have been touting reform since the bubble burst at the end of the 1980s.

Anyway, this comes back to Japanese youth. One of my brothers host brothers is a very conservative Japanese young male. His idea of a perfect life is to get out of college, doesn't matter what, and join his fathers company as a salary man. He then will get a wife and have kids. That is his goal, that seems fine sort of, but really its the rigidity of the plans. He says that is what he has wanted for as long as he can remember, he also bashes anyone who does not subscribe to this view, or most any of his other views as not being Japanese Mainstream.

So yea, Japan is funky. But man they are makin some cool robots.

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Scottaculous
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10 years ago my friend in HS had an experiment with a porn site. Japanese users came in as #2 with the most hits behind US.

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Lira
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Originally posted by Scottaculous
10 years ago my friend in HS had an experiment with a porn site. Japanese users came in as #2 with the most hits behind US.

Maybe that's because those were the two countries with most internet users in the 90's?


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MrJiveBoJingles
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Location: U.S.

I guess Japan too must have lots of conservative columnists whining away about changing notions of gender and what it means to be masculine. We have more than enough of that here in the U.S.

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Acton
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Location: London

I say we invade.




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FuzzQi
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I say we invade.





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knowhope
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Registered: May 2009
Location: South Korea

Nothing new to me.

Been to Korea to see my family. Men with "Man Bags" walking around with their skinny tight jeans. Waving off their epic "Super Sayain" hair.

Also you need some very fashionable glasses.

I was befouled by my nation route to complet metrosexuality.

BLERERRRRRHHHGGGGG

Sorry i just puked.

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Cpt.Cocaine
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He works for an Internet service provider and operates Sweets Club, an online group for men who like desserts. Set up in January, it already has about 1,000 members who congregate — online and in person — to debate the virtues of different brands of strawberry shortcake.



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Joss Weatherby
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To be honest that sounds bad ass, well the eating part.

I fucking love strawberry shortcake, actually anything with strawberrys in it...

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Slylee
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Location: Hollywood, FL

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Japanese culture is fucked. Stereotypes die hard but changes in popular social culture are never ending, so people end up doing things they like only to feel like the collective opinion of them is bad and that they are not worthy.

Things like the herbivore men are probably as not wide spread as they seem from the media reporting in the US. There is a major issue though with low birth rates in the country and a rapidly rising aged population. There is also reports (can't remember the source, it was CNN a couple years ago I believe) that a growing percentage of all Japanese youth feel disaffected by their culture and are actually in some circumstance becoming angry about it.

You can see some of this change affecting their elections, the LDP was defeated for the first time in a major way since the end of WW2. Essentially up to that point Japan was a one party system for all intents and purposes. The LDP was a good old boys club that generally was steeped in its cultural view of Japanese society, which included strong, almost fascist ties to business. Now you have more varied parties (though they are LDP spin-offs) coming into power. This is a big change. These miniority parties for the most part have been touting reform since the bubble burst at the end of the 1980s.

Anyway, this comes back to Japanese youth. One of my brothers host brothers is a very conservative Japanese young male. His idea of a perfect life is to get out of college, doesn't matter what, and join his fathers company as a salary man. He then will get a wife and have kids. That is his goal, that seems fine sort of, but really its the rigidity of the plans. He says that is what he has wanted for as long as he can remember, he also bashes anyone who does not subscribe to this view, or most any of his other views as not being Japanese Mainstream.

So yea, Japan is funky. But man they are makin some cool robots.


lol did you copy/paste this from an online article or something? and have you ever even been to japan?


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