i was out at club digital last night, got in about 5am and my ears have been ringing ever since. That was 14hours ago, is this normal? How long does it take to subside? I don't go to clubs very often, so i'm not subjecting my ears to loud noise all the time. How do the dj's cope with it if they are not wearing ear plugs? And how many dj's do?

i dunno what to say is this even a MD topic anyways hope u feel better soon
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Sometimes my ears are a bit "numb" the day after, but if they're still ringing you may have done some damage.

If I ever have the spare cash I will get some good quality earplugs, but I don't think my hearing has deteriorated that much since I started clubbing.

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Welcome to the world of tinnitus.

All I know is that ringing means some damage. I had it a lot when I used to go out.
Do you go out often or did you just start?
I think I had it longer when I started going out. Lateron it disappeared somewhere in the next day.
I don't think I would wear plugs, just look better where to stand. Not in front of the speakers.

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The last gig i went too a couple of months ago , i was right at the front for most of the night , and the day after , it was a no go , i couldnt hear anything clearly , but after 2 days i was back to normal , so my lesson learned there is dont stand so close if you wanna hear for the next few days.

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It is not the amount of time you go out or are exposed that really matters, I mean a few seconds could damage your hearing forever.
But it is more likely that you damage your ears only after a while or after going out often and exposing your ears to alot of sound.

Tinnitus is the medical term for hearing constant sound when the sound you hear actually doesn't exist. Some people obviously have a higher treshold than others to where something like Tinnitus actually occurs or becomes excruciatingly painful.
Some djs even suffer from Tinnitus (for example Jody Wisternoff)


Ever since I bought earplugs myself Ive been really encouraging most of my friends to buy decent earplugs when they go out alot or are planning on standing somewhere where the music is very loud (for example near the speakers).

The big issue for me is that unlike a bruise or a bad haircut, damaged hearing cant actually improve anymore over your lifetime. If its fucked, its fucked so to say
You can only learn to live with it, so it doesnt bother you as much

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Originally posted by Trance-MB I don't think I would wear plugs, just look better where to stand. Not in front of the speakers.

I think, this is a general misconception. Usually you're right but when the setup is bad it might not matter really where you stand. If the highs for example are too loud or the dj uses an effect that makes it go off the scale, you can be fucked quite easily regardless of where you stand

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Get these

http://www.audiorelief.co.uk/shop/images/black%20&%20white%20er15.jpg

I got a pair a year ago (not that manufacturer) and I'd say its probably the best purchase I've ever made. I dont care if it looks stupid or if people comment, whenever I'm at a gig or even in a loud pub I pop them in. Theres nothing worse than having ringing ears the next day and these get rid of it by pulling the sound levels down by 15 - 25 decibels.

You dont really notice after a while as your ear adjusts, so you perceive the sound just as loud as everyone else. And no ringing ears even after an 8 - 10 hour gig.

Cost me a fortune, €230 for a pair so they're quite precious, but I'd recommend them to absolutely everyone. Being able to change the volume level yourself in a club is fantastic.

Edit: Funny enough I can hear people talking better with them in, as you can pick out sounds more easily.

The only awkward part is that when you talk, you can hear yourself talking more loudly than normal, as the sound reverberated through your jawbone into your ear isnt attenuated like the outside sound entering your ear is.

thanks for the comments so far folks. Yes i was standing at the front for about 90mins when mark eteson was on. Right next to the speakers, you could feel the bass going right through you, i was so drunk i didn't care or think! But next time i will deffo be more careful. Lesson learned, and i'll hopefully recover.

I got myself some mild tinnitus more than a year ago after i attended a terribly loud and long concert and lent my earplugs to somebody else. Stupidest thing i've ever done. The following days i had a horribly loud ringing in my ears, i couldn't hear very good and everything sounded muffled and distorted. Then i got all (as far as i can tell) of my hearing back but the ringing was still there. Since then the ringing itself has shifted in nature and today it doesn't bother me much, but the first few weeks i learned what regret and depression mean. Tinnitus can go away but it can also be chronic, it might go away after a week, a month, a year or you may have it all your life.

I don't consider myself reckless but maybe it would have happened sooner or later anyway, now i've learned my lesson and i don't go anywhere near loud noises without my earplugs actually in my ears.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J If I ever have the spare cash I will get some good quality earplugs

Are you telling me you can't afford a pair of these: http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er20.aspx ?

Decent earplugs are indeed quite expensive
Mine cost about 160euro and I have had them insured for 2years for another 20. They work exactly as THE_Chris says, and just drop the sound about 25dB for me. Best purchase I ever did btw

If you ARE planning on buying earplugs, Id make sure to ask if they have an evenly spread damping. Normally the expensive ones should have this by default, but it doesnt hurt to be sure.
This ensures that the sound you hear with the plugs in has the same level of highs, mids and lows as the sound you would hear without them in.
Without evenly spread damping the music can sound can quite distorted or mangled

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