My lord, microchiping citizens, killing grandma and introducing socialism...no wonder the bill is that thick if it contains all that.

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Cool, I'm invested in BEAT, a company which has developed and managed a remote monitoring device which tracks a patient's vital signs from a central location. Have a heart attack, they know it before you do!

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Originally posted by Krypton Cool, I'm invested in BEAT, a company which has developed and managed a remote monitoring device which tracks a patient's vital signs from a central location. Have a heart attack, they know it before you do!

BEAT has been down 33% since I got it two months ago...can't wait for a comeback...well not really...I mean who wants a chip floating in their bodies? Also have they figured a way to let your body accept these chips? What if the battery dies in your chip?

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Originally posted by culorut In “real world speak”, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country.

whatever you say champ.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN whatever you say champ.

LOL, stupid decided to speak.

Thanks for the input idiot.

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Originally posted by spdandpwr BEAT has been down 33% since I got it two months ago...can't wait for a comeback...well not really...I mean who wants a chip floating in their bodies? Also have they figured a way to let your body accept these chips? What if the battery dies in your chip?

Yea, it's a risky pick. Not a very long track record, and some other things. Average fundamentals. What's makes it a blip on my radar is how low the price is historically.

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Originally posted by culorut LOL, stupid decided to speak. Thanks for the input idiot.

i know i should go easier on you considering you lack any formal education, but anyone with any shred of intelligence can understand that wall of text to mean that its about creating a registry of medical implants, and not a secret government plan to force every citizen to get chipped.

If you disagree, please quote the exact paragraph from the legislation that means this

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In “real world speak”, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country.

I mean, I know you’re woefully incapable of understanding any kind of technical language, which is why you rely on fallacious “real world speak” to interpret it for you, but we’re all living in hope one day you’ll surprise us with something insightful.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i know i should go easier on you considering you lack any formal education, but anyone with any shred of intelligence can understand that wall of text to mean that its about creating a registry of medical implants, and not a secret government plan to force every citizen to get chipped. If you disagree, please quote the exact paragraph from the legislation that means this I mean, I know you’re woefully incapable of understanding any kind of technical language, which is why you rely on fallacious “real world speak” to interpret it for you, but we’re all living in hope one day you’ll surprise us with something insightful.

I'm awaiting the mass deportation of 9/11 truthers to the FEMA camps.

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Holy hermeneutics, Batman!

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Clearly the OP has no understanding of how to read a statute.

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In “real world speak”, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country.

Incorrect; the quoted section has absolutely nothing to do with microchipping anyone for any purpose...

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Originally posted by culorut ‘‘The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that — ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is — ‘‘(i) a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.

Quite plainly, the section states that this is to be a registry of all "life-supporting, or life-sustaining" devices that are implanted into a person. A microchip would neither be life supporting or sustaining... the bill coveres things like pacemakers, artificial heart valves, etc. Additionally, the purpose of the registry is to track the effectiveness of the device... which one presumes would be for the purpose of identifying which devices perform best.

There is no question the OP has misread the section or read in things that simply are not there. Interestingly, the OP also failled to read what actually is there...

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providing public access to the data and analysis collected or developed through the registry in a manner and form that protects patient privacy and proprietary information and is comprehensive, useful, and not misleading to patients, physicians, and scientists.

... which is to say that the data collected cannot be sufficient to identify the person in which the implant was installed.

It's fun to see how badly someone can misunderstand something because of their previously held conclusions.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Clearly the OP has no understanding of how to read a statute.

Really? LOL

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Quite plainly, the section states that this is to be a registry of all "life-supporting, or life-sustaining" devices that are implanted into a person. A microchip would neither be life supporting or sustaining... the bill coveres things like pacemakers, artificial heart valves, etc. Additionally, the purpose of the registry is to track the effectiveness of the device... which one presumes would be for the purpose of identifying which devices perform best.

Incorrect, no where in the bill does it say pacemakers or artificial heart valves in all the 1000 somewhat pages. Find either one of the two mentioned directly and I will gladly surrender to your false accusations.

This is a very vague bill/framework to pass new technologies which already do exist under the public's eyes, hence why this particular info was in the "non-discussed" section. How you think data cannot sustain life which is stored in an implanted RFID is seriously laughable. Information is the key to everything, they are going to get rid of paper records and replace them within a chip which they will be able to scan from you directly.

The bill clearly states one thing very well, IMPLANTABLE. What they fail to disclose is what "devices" fall under this (their) category.

It's only the start but it is coming indefinitely. They are laying the foundation now so that when RFID's come into full swing they will not have to write another bill. Seriously, learn to read in between the lines a little.