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Andrew K
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Salonica, Greece
Dunno Have you ever wondered..?

OK, On most of the vinyls I have it is written :
"blablabla... and any public performance without the written permision is prohibited

So... all DJs are illegal? or what?


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Passiva
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Rotterdam, The Netherlands

Yea, I've noticed that too lately
So it seems that you have to ask permission to play the record at a party or something...kinda weird

[EDIT]

I've found this on the RIAA site:

quote:

To get a license to use the musical composition there are several organizations that may be able to help, depending on the exact type of license needed. To publicly perform musical compositions, you need to contact one of the three music licensing organizations created to represent songwriters and their publishers:

ASCAP
BMI
SESAC




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Pjotr G
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Netherlands

nope.....when you play them in public you (the club) has to pay the ehhh in holland it's buma stemra, who pays the song's artist

that's how it works formally anyways.


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P`zazz
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: In A Trance

This really SUX

IMAO this is all bull cause when you play a record in public you are promoting the artist and the track so you are actually advertising them for free. So why shouldn't we get paid by them for promoting and advertising an artist and his work

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capricorn15
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Registered: May 2001
Location: CA

as if they are going to bust you for playing the records live.

but ya i wondered about that too, i would say just email the record company on the vinyl saying you might play one of their records at a party, and be done with

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DJ Chrono
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: toronto

What used to happen here, is when you buy a record, you can play it where ever, when ever you want, cause some of the money you used to buy it goes to the artist.. But something about spinning CD's, you need a DJ license. Don't know why exactly.. and you are technically supposed to play legal copies of the CDs.

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mantisnl
luuk maes



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: holland

i was thinking of exactly the same thing this morning!!!

but i didn`t have a clue either

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FuzzyGreen
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Bay Area, Ca USA

This is how it works in the U.S.:

The club or bar pays ASCAP/BMI fees annually. These fees cover all the music that is played in their bar/store/club. A (very small) percentage of the money collected by ASCAP/BMI goes to the artist.

If you are playing a small public performance and you are not making money off it no one will care. If you are making money off it, then you could get it taken to court and ordered to pay whatever financial loss the record label incurred (probably about 40% of what you made).

A lot of record labels will consider DJ play as promotion and advertisment so they wont care if you play their stuff. Hell, I would be honored to find any of my songs played anywhere or downloaded anywhere.

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DJ LIQUID
House DJ 4 Life



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: IL USA

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
This is how it works in the U.S.:

The club or bar pays ASCAP/BMI fees annually. These fees cover all the music that is played in their bar/store/club. A (very small) percentage of the money collected by ASCAP/BMI goes to the artist.

If you are playing a small public performance and you are not making money off it no one will care. If you are making money off it, then you could get it taken to court and ordered to pay whatever financial loss the record label incurred (probably about 40% of what you made).

A lot of record labels will consider DJ play as promotion and advertisment so they wont care if you play their stuff. Hell, I would be honored to find any of my songs played anywhere or downloaded anywhere.
well said

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Tony Morello
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

as a dj in both cases (records and using cd for a mobile dj service) i do have a little bit of knowledge

there are sets of cds available for public performances, they cost a lot of money but it is totally legal to use them for financial gain
now, i know that if there are songs being played that aren't properly released for financial gain (i.e. burnt cds with bands not found in the sets) and the authorities find out about it, said person or company could face huge fines and possible further legal action.


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matt_a
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Sydney

HAhahahaha how the hell will the authorities find out about it. Uless it's a huge party with thousands of people that is advertised and whatnot. Otherwise how can they find out. The authorities these days suck. And why is it that it's always the RIAA involoved. I mean why the fuck does America control the fricken world. All the countries should just tell the Recording indstry assosiation of America to fuck off and mind their own country!
Also i just looked at my records today closely
it also says
"Copying, Hiring, LENDING, broadcasting or public performance of this is prohibited bla bla bla"
So does that mean it's illegal for me to lend it to my friend?
F**KING Authorities!


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Scorchio
Sorry! We Are Circoloco



Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Lexicon Avenue

Its also "Ileegal" to play burned CDs with a Pioneer CDJ-100S

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