Why do some DJ's look down on everything but vinyl?

What is wrong with using a MIDI mixer and a program as long as you you do the beat matching yourself?

I can't see any benefits for spinning a trance set in vinyl... Scratching sounds like shit in most trance tunes... carrying around tons of records is inconvenient, and where the fuck can you find modern trance releases in vinyl?

Why is there such a stigma to using anything but vinyl?

Its one thing to be old school(And if your scratching Im sure its still better), but another to hate everything but what you use.

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Originally posted by djnitride Why is there such a stigma to using anything but vinyl?

Is there? I haven't noticed any in quite a few years.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Is there? I haven't noticed any in quite a few years.

Maybe I just got a lecture by some too cool for school dj. But him and a few buddies tried to convince me that anything but but vinyl was lame. They were discussing their setups and I told them I looked into both and Vinyl didn't make sense for the amount of money you have to drop nowadays compared to VDJ stuff.

Just getting defensive over their giant monetary investments I guess....

I don't hate... I just don't care.

Basically what the "Old DJs" are trying to yell out is the hard work they had when they were digging through crates and crates of vinyl for that one little gem. These vinyl weren't cheap, you had to earn them with hard work, same goes for turntables and a mixer.

In the old days, to be a DJ requires talent and craftmanship. Now we have 18 year old coming in with their digital gear and screwing up the experienced and older DJs by charging half of what the "Old DJs" used to charge.

You see little 12 year old kids buying Xone 4D, Xponents, VCI and buying music with the side of pirating them. They also have contemp towards their equipment and want more. Creating most of the people DJing "Gear Whores". Getting more and more gear and they also lean towards the digital side and never appreciate the music. They can have a few tens of thousands in their computer library, but man they still want more. While vinyl purist like I have only a few hundreds of track that i love and cherish.

I've got nothing against digitalist since i have friends going that route. This is only my opinion and i am not lashing out on the new wave of DJs blooming out. That's my 2 cent right there.

because you can't rub your balls on an mp3.

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Originally posted by knowhope In the old days, to be a DJ requires talent and craftmanship. Now we have 18 year old coming in with their digital gear and screwing up the experienced and older DJs by charging half of what the "Old DJs" used to charge.

this i think is the biggest thing

i'm not a vinyl purist but i do own quite a few records that i've collected over the years before cdjs were common in clubs and i cherish every single one of them

you were more inclined to save your money for music that you really wanted and with the cost of producing vinyl, labels were more inclined to release more quality tunes

the time and money that went into djing before kept out the "posers", now anyone with an internet connection and a few bucks can claim they dj

but then again, knowing how to dj and being a dj are 2 different things and is a different discussion

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Last edited by Tony Morello on Nov-04-2009 at 03:54

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Originally posted by Tony Morello this i think is the biggest thing i'm not a vinyl purist but i do own quite a few records that i've collected over the years before cdjs were common in clubs and i cherish every single one of them the time and money that went into djing before kept out the "posers", now anyone with an internet connection and a few bucks can claim they dj but then again, knowing how to dj and being a dj are 2 different things and is a different discussion

But the real sad fact is most people don't know the difference between a real artistic mix and a ggkthx sync win button

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Originally posted by knowhope But the real sad fact is most people don't know the difference between a real artistic mix and a ggkthx sync win button

Ignorance is transparent.

i have a feeling this is going to be one of those idiotic debates as to what a real dj is...your not a dj if you don't spin anything...yada yada yada...vinyl is better, cds are better, digital is better...shaaaaad up!!!!

who cares really? i dont think anybody here is going to stop playing music just because of an idiot hate one medium of delivering music. if you are one to stop because of the incessant "vinyl is better" mentality, stop for the sake of all of us.

if it sounds good, it sounds good...ive gotten to the point of medium being pointless. i started on techs, then cds, then back to techs, now i'm using ableton. granted i'm not some big whig dj who spins out but just somebody who dicks around with my free time.


i say the new mod, whoever it may be...delete these kinds of repeat posts...save us all typing time

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 Ignorance is transparent.

I think "Ignorance is Bliss" would do much better

I've mixed digitally with a controller, with CDJs, and finally (with my first setup) vinyl. I honestly find vinyl the most enjoyable to mix with, as well as the most frustrating. It's certainly not as convenient, but I'm probably going to collect and mix records, besides whatever else I use, for quite some time.

next time someone comes preaching to you, just whip out your cock and say "look at this" they will leave you alone forever