Hi, I've recorded a 2 hour set in Traktor 3 and finished/exported it. I've since come across a voiceover that I want to use in the mix instead of the one I had, how do you edit things without starting again, is it possible?? Thanks.

Neil.

To be honest with you, if you've already used a voiceover then you're going to find it pretty difficult to 'replace' that voice over with another.

Your best bet is to reduce the volume of the music then play your voice over and then maybe fade (quite steeply) back into the mix.

Unless... You do some intricate splicing of the song that's playing. If it's just the main body of the song with no effects and not in the middle of a transition you might be able to find the same point in the actual song and replace the part you originally voiced over.

Which might take you as long as it would to just record the set again

To answer your question there's no easy way that I know of.

nelly

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Originally posted by n3lly Your best bet is to reduce the volume of the music then play your voice over and then maybe fade (quite steeply) back into the mix.

that would sound awful.


1. take the original track that you dubbed with the first voiceover, open it in a sound editing program like soundforge (but you can do all of these steps quite easily in ableton), and cut out the section that you dubbed in your mix.

2. open the original, cut section that you just created in a multi-track DAW such as ableton, and dub the new voiceover on top of the cut.

3. then, open the set you recorded with the dubbed track, and replace the dubbed section with the new overdub you created in ableton.

you can interchange step 2 and 3, depending on your needs. it should only take like, 15 minutes max, depending on how long the vocal sample is. if you did it during a transition though, you're fucked, unless you re-record the transition by itself with the same exact eq settings, volume, etc that you used when you originally recorded the mix, and replace the old with the new as explained above. that would be a big dickaround though, and if you can't get the EQ just right, the newly spliced section will sound different than the original recording, which will not only make your mix sound like shit, but will also cause you to lose credibility if it was a "live mix."

Last edited by Omega_Blue on Nov-24-2009 at 10:06

Edit: I did not see the post above, this is the free way:

Just remix the parts you want to change, but beatmatch the track with that part in your recorded mix before you start. (If it's off a little it isn't really noticable)

Then paste the new section into your original mix with audacity.
Trim the excess. you can very accurately do a splice in audacity, just match the waveforms.

If your levels are a bit off you can tweek it abit with the amplitude effect.

You don't have to record everything again.

I am not sure if my ^^ explanation is correct though so I will give an example:

You have 16 beats you want to change in an original mix.
Beatmatch original mix with the same song in that section.
Start recording and record the part you want to change on that bpm. (Record a big section, you can cut and paste out the part you want in audacity)

Paste the new beats next to the original 16.
Delete the original 16

and then trim the front beats and end beats of the new section till the waveforms match: New 16 beats.

I'm well aware that my method isn't the best however the only reason I suggested it is 8 times out of 10 people on here aren't wizards with programs like ableton/soundforge or audacity.

Ask people to match up wave forms cut and splice tracks making sure they find the zero cross over points etc etc and you've pretty much lost them.

Fingers cross the OP knows how to perform the above.

Audacity isn't exactly rocket science.

It's just copy paste delete. It's like editing a text document.

A waveform is also not a complicated thing.

Speak for yourself, I still stand by what I said.

Most Dj's are geeks at heart, just social ones.

I don't think everyone on here would be proficient with an Audio manipulation program such as Soundforge or Audacity let alone Ableton.

Again this is all just opinion based and while I know where you're coming from I don't think it's as easy and cut a paste without them introducing a pop/hiss or some other artefacts into their set unless spliced correctly.

I understand perfectly well that people might not be able to do sound manipulation.

I can't do sound manipulation, I do not know anything about soundforge or ableton.

But Audacity is free, it's not even 5MB to download.

It took me all of 5 minutes to figure out that I could copy and paste waveforms. If you are using Traktor you should know what waveforms look like, and also be competent enough to understand whats going on in Audacity.

The only tricky part is to remix the part you need in the right bpm, which is easy since you just beatmatch to your original mix before you start the recording.

I have also tested the pop and hiss thing. You really have to do a crap edit for it to make a hiss or pop, and by crap edit I mean like a toddler would.

Generaly I would think even for a DJ hobbiest it is good practice to learn a little sound editing. It is a good way to develope a feel for levels, especially if you record your mixes and look at the waveforms of the mixed parts. You learn so much from doing that.