I know it's not about the money its about the music blah blah, but some of you guys have pretty legit sounding tunes on your myspaces, which are usually uploaded onto beatport/itunes.

Is it a few dollars total or has anyone here made something more significant?

Also, how much do you think guys like Wolfgang, Miles Dyson, and others who DON'T have CDs out make?

Miles Dyson had a bunch of beatport downloads so I'm sure he made a few hundred atleast I donno. I don't have any of my tracks on beatport, so please enlighten me on this.

Depends. Sometimes a couple of 100, sometimes a couple of 10ers.

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One million dollars.






I'm pretty sure people aren't going to volunteer the exact amount they have earn't from music production.

I haven't had a lot from my releases, nothing I would deem 'significant' anyway.

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Last edited by Acton on Jan-19-2010 at 10:52

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Originally posted by Storyteller Depends. Sometimes a couple of 100, sometimes a couple of 10ers.

Good stuff man, I'm digging sound. So you made a few hundred on just one of your completed tracks? How do you feel about that? Not bad/could or should make more?

If your putting out good product...and your not making money...then there is a good chance your distributor is jacking you and your label. Sales are happening in all genres of EDM, and there is a big interest in dance music worldwide, bigger than it has ever been. The accessibility of the internet has compounded that. So it depends on your label and music, music that DJs find useful will sell, music that DJs and listeners find useful will sell even more.

If you want success, spend some time on your craft and find Labels that have a following, DJs, Listeners, Media, Radio, Reviews, Blogs, Connections etc.

#1 Question you should be asking is...

Are all sales being accurately reported?

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Originally posted by oldspice891 I know it's not about the money its about the music blah blah, but some of you guys have pretty legit sounding tunes on your myspaces, which are usually uploaded onto beatport/itunes. Is it a few dollars total or has anyone here made something more significant? Also, how much do you think guys like Wolfgang, Miles Dyson, and others who DON'T have CDs out make? Miles Dyson had a bunch of beatport downloads so I'm sure he made a few hundred atleast I donno. I don't have any of my tracks on beatport, so please enlighten me on this.

I'm kinda interested in the question too. Anyone willing to share?

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Originally posted by Kismet7 If your putting out good product...and your not making money...then there is a good chance your distributor is jacking you and your label. Sales are happening in all genres of EDM, and there is a big interest in dance music worldwide, bigger than it has ever been. The accessibility of the internet has compounded that, so it depends on your label and music, music that DJs find useful will sell, music that DJs and listeners find useful will sell even more.

I was always curious to the extent that sales actually happen. I mean take a random sample of 2k of the population. How many are actually going to know the names of some producer's track and actually have purchased it via beatport in comparison to a Lady Gaga track or something. I'll go to these huge 60k massives, and i'm pretty sure unless it's obviously popular, nobody knows most of the tracks. So I'm thinking, are these producers actually making anything or is it just mr. awesome david guetta because he's headlining that's earning the dough. I figure no one knows because they're rolling balls and everything sounds great anyways.

It blows my mind because here are thousands and thousands of people that I'm pretty sure haven't the slightest clue of who produced most of those tracks, where people can go to a rock concert at a small 500 seater and I'd assume that band has made more.

I'm going off assumptions here.

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Originally posted by oldspice891 I was always curious to the extent that sales actually happen. I mean take a random sample of 2k of the population. How many are actually going to know the names of some producer's track and actually have purchased it via beatport in comparison to a Lady Gaga track or something. I'll go to these huge 60k massives, and i'm pretty sure unless it's obviously popular, nobody knows most of the tracks. So I'm thinking, are these producers actually making anything or is it just mr. awesome david guetta because he's headlining that's earning the dough. I figure no one knows because they're rolling balls and everything sounds great anyways. It blows my mind because here are thousands and thousands of people that I'm pretty sure haven't the slightest clue of who produced most of those tracks, where people can go to a rock concert at a small 500 seater and I'd assume that band has made more. I'm going off assumptions here.

EDM fans that go to those festivals are clued as you can get. They download sets and find out who played what, and then look through artist and label discographies and buy up what they like. People dont just stumble upon a festival or club event, they are fans just like of any genre, but more internet savy. Since EDM is still nott mass marketed, but still very accessible on the internet, you kind of have to be internet savy to be part of the scenes going on around the world. So EDM actually enjoys the best and most loyal fans. The people (worthless fucks) who say EDM music doesnt sell are most likely shilling (grabbing their ankles and selling their soul) for distributors robbing artists and labels of money. The rest are normal artist and labels who have fallen prey to the consensus that digital distributors/retailers want artists and labels to believe, that EDM does not sell somehow.

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Last edited by Kismet7 on Jan-19-2010 at 11:53

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Originally posted by Acton I'm pretty sure people aren't going to volunteer the exact amount they have earn't from music production.

+1

so it's a bit difficult to answer your question, oldspice891

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Originally posted by oldspice891 I was always curious to the extent that sales actually happen. I mean take a random sample of 2k of the population. How many are actually going to know the names of some producer's track and actually have purchased it via beatport in comparison to a Lady Gaga track or something. I'll go to these huge 60k massives, and i'm pretty sure unless it's obviously popular, nobody knows most of the tracks. So I'm thinking, are these producers actually making anything or is it just mr. awesome david guetta because he's headlining that's earning the dough. I figure no one knows because they're rolling balls and everything sounds great anyways. It blows my mind because here are thousands and thousands of people that I'm pretty sure haven't the slightest clue of who produced most of those tracks, where people can go to a rock concert at a small 500 seater and I'd assume that band has made more. I'm going off assumptions here.

I don't mind answering questions to an extent, so feel free to ask....And your assumptions are fairly accurate oldspace891. DJ'ing shows are still completely different from rock n roll and always will be despite the strong push for artists to play their own and try to sell their own.

As for sales.....it really just depends. Beatport is better for two and three song releases. Albums do quite a bit better on iTunes. It's usually hit or miss and the factors that go into play here are large and unpredictable. I've had music that I was sure was going to sell because I thought it was great, only to be disappointed.

Unfortunately despite music quality or what you or others may think, "name recognition" is still a very big factor in determining sales. 90% from an artist perspective, and then labels do have some "fans" as well.

As for distributors, poor sales, etc. I recently switched aggregators for my label because of this very reason. It was a bit more complex, but at the end of the day I was not happy with the company and chose to go another direction and so far so good. Things are unfortunately slow so I'm going to need at least two quarterly reports to judge my new aggregator.

Most producers have a day job , am I right?

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Originally posted by IceColdWater Most producers have a day job , am I right?

Yes. Even some of the most established producers would find it difficult supporting themselves on single sales only.

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