Lately while listening to sets by other DJ's, I've come to really notice mixes that involve 2 songs with contrasting moods. For example, mixing from a sad sounding song into a upbeat happier sounding song, or vice-versa.
Do you take this into consideration at all when mixing? If you were to categorize your music library, what words would you use to describe each mood?
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Can this be my goal??!
I wear a mood ring on each finger when I mix and let them decide the next track I play.
Jan-24-2010 02:41
n3lly
www.n3lly.com
Registered: May 2003
Location: Dublin
quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
shut up.
seriously.
I should 'politically' tell you to ease off but unfortunately i agree..
Way too deep..
Ted I love your creative thinking
Jan-24-2010 03:51
nemesis8722
tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2006
Location: Neenah, WI
Re: Mixing based on mood?
quote:
Originally posted by DjSqueekz
Do you take this into consideration at all when mixing? If you were to categorize your music library, what words would you use to describe each mood?
In the bedroom, totally. At a gig, never.
Jan-24-2010 05:36
Zak McKracken
Trance
Registered: Jun 2003
Location:
Re: Mixing based on mood?
quote:
Originally posted by DjSqueekz
what words would you use to describe each mood?
anxiety, paranoia on one side, numb, careless on the other.
Jan-24-2010 18:15
keithos27
Perfecto For Clubs
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Atlanta
i have songs that capture a lot of different moods. just depends for what type of set you're trying to make.
Jan-25-2010 18:22
A.B
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Mar 2006
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
shut up.
seriously.
Another intelligent response from our resident Bond villain lookalike.
I mean come on, you describe one of your sets as:Goes from slow and really deep, to a little bit diva, then to fist pump tech
and then you take a shot at this guy.
Originally posted by DjSqueekz
Lately while listening to sets by other DJ's, I've come to really notice mixes that involve 2 songs with contrasting moods. For example, mixing from a sad sounding song into a upbeat happier sounding song, or vice-versa.
Do you take this into consideration at all when mixing? If you were to categorize your music library, what words would you use to describe each mood?
I don't really focus on it that much to be honest, but I get where you're coming from.
I usually have 4 genres within my library purely for ease of locating a track. I just make an effort to listen to each track and absorb it so I know the track fairly well, what works etc.
Most of you idiots don't know how to create mood/atmosphere in your sets.
Feb-08-2010 03:46
n3lly
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Dublin
quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
I don't see what's wrong with his question.
Most of you idiots don't know how to create mood/atmosphere in your sets.
Instead of just calling people idiots why don't you enlighten them with how you create a mood in a set so. If you don't find his question strange that is.
Feb-08-2010 16:10
mfitterer1
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Oregon
quote:
Originally posted by n3lly
Instead of just calling people idiots why don't you enlighten them with how you create a mood in a set so. If you don't find his question strange that is.
I think the last part asking about peoples collections and such is kind of an odd thing to ask but I think he not only has every right to ask about building mood and atmosphere but I'm happy to see other dj's putting some emphasis on it.
If you listen to many sets (even from here where dj's have a more underground interest in the music they choose to play) most don't have a clue about mood or atmosphere. Certainly the more commercial dj's have even less of a clue.
As far as what I do it's mainly about paying attention to the mixable parts of the song. If I play a really big energetic song (usually a peak moment for me that I've built up to) I may use that entire outro to let the peak resonate and fade before starting another journey with a more neutral energy track. This works well in a club because it allows a break from dancing to the peak where clubbers can go refill drinks or go to the bathroom before starting over on another group of tracks. In a traditional 2 hour set I do this 3-4 times. It works really well.
There are many tracks in edm that may be uptempo/uplifting but then their mixable parts are very minimal or more downtempo than the peak areas of the song. This is the case in all genres of edm but especially progressive. A lot of people like to mix different genres together like Progressive into Uplifing Trance or such. They just aren't made to be mixed together and while technically you can mix them well; they aren't made to be mixed into each other. There are tracks that are made as transition tracks from genres but I don't think most dj's are astute enough to pay attention to and use the information the tracks give you. Just have to listen and it will tell you. Contrary to popular belief every track doesn't mix well into every other track EVEN if they are in identical key/ bpm/vibe/etc.
I think in the era we are currently in with Mixed In Key and other software being so cheap for what it accomplishes (or even worse being pirated) that djs don't know what it really allows them to do. They see two of their favorite songs within the key range and they choose to play those songs b2b. The focus SHOULD be on the mix and the feeling going from one track into the next. Think about it; in a club setting people don't want to hear huge differences track to track. It should be a consistent flow throughout. The dj should be background music for the social environment the people are enjoying. I don't mean background as in stylistically or as in not playing exciting music but more such that changes song to song should be as subtle as possible so that the people can do what they came to do (dance; mingle, and meet new people/enjoy a night out with friends). It sickens me that the current dj mantra is all about "eyes on me".
I think in the era of piracy (and lets be honest I'd say 80% of dj's steal their music) people don't truly know and love all of their tracks. Thus they don't know what they can accomplish with them. You can use the same songs in several different ways all depending on what areas you use to mix them and how you physically do the mix. In the same breath there are songs that just won't work together in a mix even though technically they work fine.
To be blunt; there are a lot of dumb djs these days. I think that is what keeps a lot of the really good producers out of the clubs. They don't want to be lumped with this attention whore mentality that Tiesto/Armin et all have brought into the music.