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mfitterer1
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Traktor Problem/Question

Hey guys maybe you will be able to help me with a current problem I am having.

Up until now I have always just imported a track; adjust the grid or if its really out of wack make my own; and that's it. Currently I have a song which has it's listed tempo as 130 in the ID3 tag prior to editing it; 126 when mixed in key scans it; and 129.70 when it is imported to traktor.

When left at 129.70 or at 130 the timing is consistently off throughout the entire song. Not by a little; but a lot. At 126 (mixed in keys reading; which I have never had fail prior); it holds but then slowly starts drifting throughout the track.

Now I have had this problem prior but it is usually when a producer does a 4 or 8 bar extension on a build and it throws the tracks timing out of wack. Usually you just have to address it in real time by moving the grid once the extension ends and the timing becomes consistent again.

What do you do in this situation? If anyone is curious the track in question is George Acosta Ft. Fisher - True Love (Original Mix). And yes; I purchased it so no flames necessary

Thanks guys.

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appears to me as if the track varies in speed while it's playing. shouldn't be a big deal, traktor can handle this - the only thing you have to do is add a new beatgrid cue in the hotcue section whenever the speed changes. that should do it

(kind of works like warp marks in ableton, if you've worked with those before.)


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mfitterer1
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quote:
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appears to me as if the track varies in speed while it's playing. shouldn't be a big deal, traktor can handle this - the only thing you have to do is add a new beatgrid cue in the hotcue section whenever the speed changes. that should do it

(kind of works like warp marks in ableton, if you've worked with those before.)


See that's what I typically do but the problem is it doesn't change at any one point; it changes consistently from the first break through the entire rest of the song.

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woscar
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Have you tried tapping to figure out the exact BPM the track is in?


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quote:
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See that's what I typically do but the problem is it doesn't change at any one point; it changes consistently from the first break through the entire rest of the song.


uuuuh. that's pretty tough then. you'd end up putting a hotcue on every 8th beat or so. just how accurate you need it...

another option would be to warp it super-accurately in ableton once and render it straight for the use in traktor...


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mfitterer1
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Registered: Jul 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by dj_macgyver
uuuuh. that's pretty tough then. you'd end up putting a hotcue on every 8th beat or so. just how accurate you need it...

another option would be to warp it super-accurately in ableton once and render it straight for the use in traktor...


I started that last night but warping is so tedious. But at this point it definitely looks like the best option.

Really strange thing is I bought one of the remixes as well and it's the same deal.

As a producer I'm really confused to what they did here and why lol.

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chewy dragee
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In Traktor you can type in the BPM you got on MIK (I find that MIK is far more accurate BPM wise than Traktor) Just set a grid cue point on the first beat, switch on TICK and nudge it until the tick and beat are one, you can adjust the bpm a little if beats drift.

I'm trying to see exactly where you do this in the new Traktor, I just upgraded from 3 and I haven't a clue how it works yet.

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