whaha the US government went nuts, I thought that the US was the promised land

Europe rules!!

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Originally posted by Matrix illegal mp3's, movies, software, or use the internet for anything illegal.

hope they dont get me, everythin on my pc is illegal

seriously, though. between the anti-rave bill and the RIAA with AG and this shit - what are they thinking?

this country is too restrictive. they should try making laws that benefit the ppl in this country.

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Originally posted by Matrix ok, here we go again. . .the new way the US is trying to crack down on illegal activities via the net. This one is 100 times worse than anything they have thought of so far. This is a total invasion of privacy. We are talking spyware to find of you own illegal mp3's, movies, software, or use the internet for anything illegal. You will get heavily fined if you tamper with or remove it, plus time in prison. If you dont use it, you get fined. There is so much more to it, I strongly advise reading about it here and to all you arrogant TA's that say this doesnt effect you, think again. Who builds your computers? Where does the processor come from? What country / company makes your operating systems? Bill S2048 needs a swift death read more about it here(same link as above) sign the petition I hate to introduce another kill this USA proposed bill thread, but this one needs a good spanking as well. Call your congress man/woman, sign the petition, and tell your friends.

I signed it. There's NO way the Gov't will win! Why? there's always ways around things. First of all, people can just buy generic parts and build their own PC. Installing the software that want is a cinch. If the Gov't wants MS to install "special" Spyware into Windows, people'll just flock over to Linux, which is easy and can be just as good as Windows, if not, better! File-sharing's no problem because people'll just start using services which are based outside of USA or use services like Direct Connect, which can't be shut down because the private hubs aren't known to people outside of the "inner-circle" of people who use it. And of course, if all else fails, back to good ol' FTP! THAT will NEVER be stopped!

THE END (for now)!!!

This will never work. Even if they did put spyware into computers, they wouldnt be able to enforce it. I mean, everyone I know who has a computer has mp3's, illegal progs and whatnot, and Im sure it's the same for the rest of us.

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Originally posted by Vanilla This will never work. Even if they did put spyware into computers, they wouldnt be able to enforce it. I mean, everyone I know who has a computer has mp3's, illegal progs and whatnot, and Im sure it's the same for the rest of us.

That's right, and programmes like Lavasoft's Ad-Aware will detect the Spyware and get it out of your PC. Lavasoft is based in Europe, where the "Policeware" can't be used. Many people use Ad-aware so, the "Policeware" won't affect them due to this. Plus, certain sites like www.astalavista.com and the www.box.sk hierarchy (sp?) (mods, if you want to take those sites out, you can) will tell you how to get rid of the spyware and never have it come back to ur PC.

Hmm...have you ever heard of 'illegal search & seizure' under the bill of rights in the US constitution? They are searching your things without enough suspicion to do so. There are many arguements for and against whether the gov't searching one's computer actually falls under this though. However since there is so much speculation over this being constitutional or not, it will be a long time before anything like this goes into effect.

On a second thought, the US gov't is extremely powerful and sometimes will start pulling shit like this whether it's constitutional or not so I don't know.

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Originally posted by tranceDJ Hmm...have you ever heard of 'illegal search & seizure' under the bill of rights in the US constitution? They are searching your things without enough suspicion to do so. There are many arguements for and against whether the gov't searching one's computer actually falls under this though. However since there is so much speculation over this being constitutional or not, it will be a long time before anything like this goes into effect. On a second thought, the US gov't is extremely powerful and sometimes will start pulling shit like this whether it's constitutional or not so I don't know.

That's why my dad sometimes says "We have NO ammendments": Because the US gov't doesn't follow them, as well as numerous other laws which are out there to protect us. The gov't will do anything to spy on people and pry into their private lives. It's all money. They want to sell info about us and I think it's REALLY wrong and unconstitutional. Here's the problem: The gov't thinks that just because they make the BIG decisions in/for this country, they know more than anyone else in the country, and that's HIGHLY untrue! Look at my reaction to the "R.A.V.E." Bill that's trying to be put in place and you'll see that the gov't NEVER thinks about backdoors, ways around things, people finding their OWN way (s) in, etc. That's why I call them dumb. END OF STORY (for now)...

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Originally posted by Matrix and to all you arrogant TA's that say this doesnt effect you, think again. Who builds your computers? Where does the processor come from? What country / company makes your operating systems?

Actually - I believe my parts were made somewhere in Asia...

Anyway... erm... do I have a point?
No

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Actually - I believe my parts were made somewhere in Asia... Anyway... erm... do I have a point? No

Japan and the rest of East Asia...

it says "all new computers"... if for some reason it gets passed, i'd suppose all the old computers will go up in price. and hey, we can always invent some new compression type, like mp313 or sumfn... i guess i'll have to go underground with all of my 40 gigs of mp3s... and i mean like really, under the ground.

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