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Philanthropist
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Registered: Oct 2009
Location: Sligo
Worth adding to my set up?

Just wondering If people think the following items are worth adding to my current set up which is 2X cdj 200's and a vestax mixer.

I'm going to get speakers just to do house parties and that so though these would be good for the job and price
These or
These ones




Also there is this Behringer Ultrafex II 3100 for €70, not entirely sure what it does but the seller has made it seem useful so opinions?

Any opinions on this piece of kit, Roland Groovebox MC-303, thinking of maybe trying to have a go at using one these so any thoughts on this model? Its for sale for €150.


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woscar
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If you're really going to use the speakers, then it's worth to get them.

If you don't know what something is for, then generally you don't need it.


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Philanthropist
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Registered: Oct 2009
Location: Sligo

I guess your right, but was wondering if anyone knew if would add anything to my current set up.
As for the groovebox, i think it could be handy but i heard its very limited, worth getting for the price?

Which set of speakers are better btw?


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chewy dragee
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House parties = Neighbours??

Ultrafex: It's going to be a white elephant IMO.

Groovebox: Depends what you want to do, also might be a white elephant <-- I would rather save for something different.

Think about adding a kaosspad or some such effects procesor if you have money you can't stand not spending.

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Philanthropist
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Registered: Oct 2009
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Originally posted by chewy dragee
House parties = Neighbours??

Groovebox: Depends what you want to do, also might be a white elephant <-- I would rather save for something different.

Think about adding a kaosspad or some such effects procesor if you have money you can't stand not spending.

Not worrying about neighbours for now tbh, come to those hurdles when I get to them and it wont always be my own place i'll be playing so its not a strong enough reason to put me off.

As for the money i cant stand not spending, I usually dont have a cent to my name but i've got a bit of money and i'd like to invest it into my set up to develop it more and allow me the ability to do more with the set. Even though i'm still learning i feel restricted slightly with the decks and mixer I have so anything that would allow me to expand on the sound I have now, while i have a bit of money to spend would be a good investment right now imo.


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Stu Cox
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Registered: Mar 2003
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I always decide what to buy by thinking about what I actually want to do and how I'm going to do it, then find and buy some appropriate kit.

The Groovebox could be great if you want to start adding extra drum beats or the odd extra melody etc into your sets. You can prerecord a load of patterns and then get it to play them back, or even bash them out on the fly.

But bear in mind you need some way of keeping it in time! It's designed to have its tempo set by either a MIDI clock input (which your current setup won't be able to supply), or by using a tap button - but that won't be very accurate, so you'd probably have to use the Groovebox as your 'master' tempo and beatmatch your tracks to that...

That's just one of the things I'd think about before buying something! What are you going to be able to do with it and how are you actually going to use it.


The Ultrafex is a sound enhancer. It's basically a special multiband compressor designed to make things sound better (you just set it up and leave it), but if not set up right it will make it sound worse. People aren't going to notice - it's more the kind of thing that a small club install might use, but most the time they wouldn't bother.


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Philanthropist
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Registered: Oct 2009
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quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
I always decide what to buy by thinking about what I actually want to do and how I'm going to do it, then find and buy some appropriate kit.

The Groovebox could be great if you want to start adding extra drum beats or the odd extra melody etc into your sets. You can prerecord a load of patterns and then get it to play them back, or even bash them out on the fly.

But bear in mind you need some way of keeping it in time! It's designed to have its tempo set by either a MIDI clock input (which your current setup won't be able to supply), or by using a tap button - but that won't be very accurate, so you'd probably have to use the Groovebox as your 'master' tempo and beatmatch your tracks to that...

That's just one of the things I'd think about before buying something! What are you going to be able to do with it and how are you actually going to use it.


The Ultrafex is a sound enhancer. It's basically a special multiband compressor designed to make things sound better (you just set it up and leave it), but if not set up right it will make it sound worse. People aren't going to notice - it's more the kind of thing that a small club install might use, but most the time they wouldn't bother.

Cheers for that. Good post. I guess really what I would like is an effects machine. I'm looking for one at the minute and would like to get the efx 500. Another thing I was thinking of aswell is maybe a pioneer mixer. Would like a mixer with more effects but then would I really need it if i had the efx?


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Stu Cox
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Depends on the effects you want to use... the Pioneer mixers have slightly different effects from the EFX units, but there's a lot of overlap. It'd be great to have both! But probably not worth the price tag. The EFX generally gives you more control over the effects than the mixer does, but some things like a roll effect (basically a short loop) are much easier on the DJM800 than on an EFX.

The other benefit of an EFX is you can take it to gigs with you, so if you're playing on someone else's kit or on an installed booth in a club, you can still have the same effects you've been practising with at home.


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Philanthropist
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Registered: Oct 2009
Location: Sligo

quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
Depends on the effects you want to use... the Pioneer mixers have slightly different effects from the EFX units, but there's a lot of overlap. It'd be great to have both! But probably not worth the price tag. The EFX generally gives you more control over the effects than the mixer does, but some things like a roll effect (basically a short loop) are much easier on the DJM800 than on an EFX.

The other benefit of an EFX is you can take it to gigs with you, so if you're playing on someone else's kit or on an installed booth in a club, you can still have the same effects you've been practising with at home.

Effects I was basically thinking of where delays and maybe my own effects added in on top of that aswell.

Could someone tell me is this worth adding, looks like a nice piece of kit?
http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.p...t=195970&cat=55


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Stu Cox
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quote:
Originally posted by Philanthropist
Could someone tell me is this worth adding, looks like a nice piece of kit?
http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.p...t=195970&cat=55


That's a MIDI controller, so it won't do a lot without a laptop! (or some other MIDI-controllable hardware)


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quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
That's a MIDI controller, so it won't do a lot without a laptop! (or some other MIDI-controllable hardware)

Should have been more specific when i put that up sorry. I'm upgrading the Ram on my laptop so I could use it with Traktor and was thinking of getting a midi Controller to use it with. Could plug it into the 3rd channel of my mixer through a soundcard and use that?


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