SMOLENSK, Russia - The crash of an aging Russian airliner ravaged the top levels of Poland's military, political and church elite Saturday, killing the Polish president and dozens of other dignitaries as they traveled to a ceremony commemorating a slaughter that has divided the two nations for seven decades. Poles wept before their televisions, lowered flags to half-staff and taped black ribbons in their windows after hearing that the upper echelons of the establishment lay dead in woods a short drive from the site of the Katyn forest massacre, one of Poland's greatest national traumas.
"Has anyone seen this video a guy took of the wreckage and you can see people surrounding the site and then 2 gun shots go off and laughter in the background? WTF is going on here?"
Andrei Mendierej - amateur filmmaker from Smolensk is dead? Published: 20/04/2010 | Category: News from the World Print Print
The first movie was recorded by the Russian disaster, in which voices are heard in Polish, if it is authentic, it is crucial evidence. It is hard to believe that it was so realistically assembled, except that then it would be likely in many of its online version, and there is one. There are clear voices in Polish and immediately after the shots. Another thing - the cockpit was saved, and strangely enough it was the bodies of pilots can not be found. They were in the seat, fasten seat belts in hełmofonach. The fire started after a disaster, so if the pilots were conscious they could jump out to prevent the spread of fire. They could die, but that their bodies had the best chance to escape in their entirety. Does the idea is to hide the real cause of their death?
Assuming the authenticity of the author filmiku risked mortal danger as a witness. So I put the information that comes from the Internet, and whose veracity can not fix myself, but I think that more editors are able to confirm whether a man of that name was in the vicinity of Smolensk, and talked with family about what he saw, and other facts. If this is a false trail might be able to inquire whether the local residents have heard something about this filmiku and its author. Here is the info:
"The person who threw this movie the first was quickly removed and his account was deleted too! The author of this movie was Mendierej Andrei, who dug the knife in the vicinity of Kiev, April 15, 2010. It has been brought in an awful state to a hospital in Kiev, where he disconnected the apparatus!"
I know that the Polish prosecutor's office will examine this movie. But in the past, many investigations had remitted, were at stake when possible objections to the well known politician and businessman. Still less could be the case when the game would fall international affairs. Therefore I have reason to believe that the prosecution will undermine the credibility of the material - even if it is true. Such matters should investigate and disclose to the media. Is the television and radio stations do not have specialized equipment to check the reliability of the material and the prominence of votes going there?
The fact that everything conspires against the presidential airplane (suddenly very bad weather, incorrect indications of the altimeters, not acting TAWS, poor co-operation with the tower) is already making serious doubts. For the entry on my blog I've added a lot of interesting new information and hypotheses about the likely (intentional or unintentional), blame the Russians. And if you bear at least part of the blame (even unintentional) is that disclosure would be a huge blow to the image of Russia - which is why it can not be ruled out attempts to hide these facts.
We publish a letter received from a specialist that developed the three-dimensional navigation systems, which sheds new light on the possible causes of an aviation disaster in Smolensk. Here are the contents of this letter:
"I am a lecturer at the University of Hambuskiej and the employee responsible for the so-called. advanced research and development of Concern HarmanBecker Automotive Systems. I developed and co-created three-dimensional navigation systems, and therefore difficult for me to imagine how TAWS system that was installed in the airplane of the President, may fail if he does not "help." (More here)
am i wrong to think that the shooting could potentially be wires and internals popping or exploding and are the people in background similar to the people who had shot the video? People close by running to see if they can help?
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Apr-21-2010 14:01
Excess
Somewhere, Out There
Registered: May 2008
Location: New Jersey
quote:
Originally posted by get nyce
am i wrong to think that the shooting could potentially be wires and internals popping or exploding and are the people in background similar to the people who had shot the video? People close by running to see if they can help?
definitely could be, and the laughing could easily be edited in as well. i'd like to know the story with the guy who survived unless that was like you said someone who had made it there before the photographer
so i guess the question is, how many polish people would it take to plan an elaborate assassination then get caught via internet conspiracy videos?
Better question is who stands around shooting a video at a plane crash site and completely ignores the fact that there are people walking around? I wonder how long after the crash this video was taken, I would imagine more smoke and shit but I'm not expert.
Also the picture and the screen cap as "proof" are umm... different? Maybe I'm crazy but one has a shitload of trees in front of the wreck, the other has a nice grassy field. ????
this video is BS. you see that guy walking around next to him absolutely unnerved. it's very simple to add in audio and/or completely remove the audio that was recorded with the video.
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Apr-21-2010 23:33
bigjimslade002
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Thats ^ fucked up right there people died from my country and your laughing and putting stupid pics up of putin and my late president your a fucking faget .
Apr-23-2010 02:14
eyebegod
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Location: syracuse, westchester (croton), ny
^+1
Apr-23-2010 02:38
DJ TRACE
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Registered: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn NyC Babyy
quote:
Originally posted by eyebegod
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For real man every one makes jokes until it happens to them or to there country, some of you people are pathetic.
Another fucking idiot --> "if we're going to blame anyone for the plane crash, it's going to be tijs for pissing off the polish pilot by not making another ISOS."
Who writes shit like that if your mom was on that flight you wouldn't say SHIT. A family friend who worked for the polish government was on that flight and he died and you make jokes, I don't see anything funny here...
Apr-23-2010 03:10
cl0wnz0r
Caviar , vodka, & pickles
Registered: Jul 2007
Location: NYC
quote:
Originally posted by DJ TRACE
For real man every one makes jokes until it happens to them or to there country, some of you people are pathetic.
Another fucking idiot --> "if we're going to blame anyone for the plane crash, it's going to be tijs for pissing off the polish pilot by not making another ISOS."
Who writes shit like that if your mom was on that flight you wouldn't say SHIT. A family friend who worked for the polish government was on that flight and he died and you make jokes, I don't see anything funny here...
i feel your pain man, but you have chosen the wrong topic to write a serious comment. this is a conspiracy video topic on TA. sorry if my joke offended you.
