I usually bin stuff like this when it's going nowhere but there's an energy in this one that I quite like so i'll see where a few suggestions or people ripping into it take me


None of the drums, levels or transition stuff is final, it's just a sketch really.



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Last edited by tehlord on Jun-08-2010 at 21:48

Sounds like a solid foundation when everything comes together.

The next thing I'd work on would probably be the drums. You say you like the energy right now, but I think you'd like it even more with more driving percussion.

Personally, I'd give the bassline and pad a bit more flavour, and perhaps give the pad more volume. I like your other synths!

Hard to say much more with such a short sample. Post up an updated version if you continue and I'll hopefully be of more help.

Check your SC for my comment G. - I can't ever wait for your next track man, add some vocal (you have pure gold vocal at home already) and this would/could be crazy good track from you again

Cheers

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Originally posted by Owsey2008 Sounds like a solid foundation when everything comes together. The next thing I'd work on would probably be the drums. You say you like the energy right now, but I think you'd like it even more with more driving percussion. Personally, I'd give the bassline and pad a bit more flavour, and perhaps give the pad more volume. I like your other synths! Hard to say much more with such a short sample. Post up an updated version if you continue and I'll hopefully be of more help.

Cheers Owen

I think you're spot on about the percs and pads and you're not the first person to mention that.I've gone through about 6-7 pad sounds now as well, the ear fatigue sets in really fast for subtle but important sounds like that, or for me it does anyway! The bassline is also not there yet i'd agree. I'm messing around with that growling subby bassline these days and it's really hard to get the EQ spot on and it sitting just so. Onwards!!

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Check your SC for my comment G. - I can't ever wait for your next track man, add some vocal (you have pure gold vocal at home already) and this would/could be crazy good track from you again Cheers

Thanks D!

I was thinking about some spot vocals for this one and I may do at a later date. I've got a mic and interface coming in a few weeks so i'm holding off recording anything until then.

Thanks for listening as usual!

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The bass and also that plucky at about 30 secs are ace and the track has great energy. I imagine a bit of a spot vocal by your missus - do something quirky though, not straight classic sirens o the sea stuff


Ok, the drums; The kick is bad brother. Way to much mid and muffle. You need one with a lot less mid freq info to allow the rest of the track som,e room - and I mean big scoop out. Then make more driving hats and percs and vary them over say 8 bars.

The snare also sounds very muffled - maybe get summit a little more techy.

Pads - sound okay to me.

I dont think that bass needs much if any tweak tbh.

Nice work.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler The bass and also that plucky at about 30 secs are ace and the track has great energy. I imagine a bit of a spot vocal by your missus - do something quirky though, not straight classic sirens o the sea stuff Ok, the drums; The kick is bad brother. Way to much mid and muffle. You need one with a lot less mid freq info to allow the rest of the track som,e room - and I mean big scoop out. Then make more driving hats and percs and vary them over say 8 bars. The snare also sounds very muffled - maybe get summit a little more techy. Pads - sound okay to me. I dont think that bass needs much if any tweak tbh. Nice work.

Cheers Rich

You're right about the kick, that's currently in 'ballpark mode' and was the closest match to what I wanted pre-EQ etc. The snare's already been adressed but i'm still not 100% happy with it. I've got an inserted reverb with a beat matched predelay on it thats still not sitting 100% right but it's been boosted at about 500-1000hz to give it that thwack.

That 30 second part is exactly why I hadn't already binned this one, I just couldn't hit the delete button.....goes against my own advice of 'if it ain't workin.....bin it!'

I'm torn on the vocals now. If I wait until I get my new gear i'm pretty sure the track will be complete or near complete and the vocals just won't get added, and if I use my current setup I may not do them justice. Hmmmmmmm. If I do put some in i've already decided they'll be in a similar style to the ones in Pattersons 'Always'. In fact that's kind of where this track is headed already.


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Mildly updated in response to critique.

The initial part before the tiny break has been changed slightly to include some verse vocals at a later date.



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Really picks up at 1 min mark, the bass is far too quiet tho, and the kickdrum has too much lowend. Plucks sound great tho!

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Originally posted by sako487 Really picks up at 1 min mark, the bass is far too quiet tho, and the kickdrum has too much lowend. Plucks sound great tho!

I think there might be an odd interaction between the basslines and kick that i've not picked up on yet. I may be at the limitations of my monitoring setup however so it may need a rethink.

Maybe I should just use my usual method and smother it with moar noise

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This has a lot of potential. The string seems a little high and could come down an octave. Keep at it. Looking forward to another finished product.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker This has a lot of potential. The string seems a little high and could come down an octave. Keep at it. Looking forward to another finished product.

That string will be much reduced in the final mix as it's really there to provide a separate topend to the pad sounds, a bit of definition if you will!

I've re-arranged it a bit and got some ideas for vocal melodies in it, I'm quite liking where it's going now tbh

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interesting track

the deharmonized notes are a drawback that adds character.

good stuff though.