your ears of course, but I'm guessing there would be a bum note some where in the b minor melody

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Ye, it was just a parable, maybe i should ask it this way, is it bad thing to "mix" different scales together? Or is it out of the "rules"?

Not at all, there no rules in music, if it sounds good, do it

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Originally posted by pizzaguy Ye, it was just a parable, maybe i should ask it this way, is it bad thing to "mix" different scales together? Or is it out of the "rules"?

there are def no rules but there are some guides you could stick to then break out of them as you see/hear fit.

that said

E minor:

E, F#, G, A, B, C, D (melodic minor)

B Minor:

B, C#, D, E, F#, G, A


as you can see the two scales have 6 notes in common(out of 7!). B is the 5th of the E minor scale (harmonically the strongest) so there is absolutely no problem working w/ B and most of the scale that goes along with it.

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Originally posted by sako487 there no rules in music

Why do so many people say this? There most certainly are rules in music, the fact that they aren't followed as strictly as they once were does not mean they don't exist.

Even though it's been said already: don't bother mixing scales in dance music, it can work if well done but dance music is usually structured and repetitive. To start changing scales all over the place breaks that structure and makes dance music (at least, in my opinion) less danceable.

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Last edited by floyd741 on Jul-06-2010 at 07:17

^^^ Tell it to hybrid. Dance music needs more modal changes IMO.

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Originally posted by pizzaguy Ye, it was just a parable, maybe i should ask it this way, is it bad thing to "mix" different scales together? Or is it out of the "rules"?

Your english is worse than your theory.

You should do what sounds good. The notes you're using from the b minor scale are probably in the e minor scale. You'll know if it sounds wrong. Feel free to post a sample if you want more help.

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Learn more about music theory. You'll get to the point where you'll find out you can do almost anything without breaking "the rules".

I'd think of it as a set of guidelines more than a set of rules. Learning music theory just makes your composing more practical, it will help you even if you wouldn't follow those rules at all.

[IMO]I personally don't like the idea of mixing two scales together. It may sound good for a while, but you'll find out why scales are what they are. They have a certain atmosphere. They provide consistency to your song. Having many scales mixed you could mess up this atmosphere (a thing that I just don't know how to describe better) and the consistency of the song.[/IMO]

"It all comes down to your ears.", as said a million times before.
"You have to know the rules in order to break them.", as said two million times before.
I think even some metaphors from the bible could help you here.

Yeah.

Changing the scale of the song completely at some point in the song might work, just have your ears set to critical. If it sounds like two different songs glued together badly, it is bad imo.

Apparently I hear this a lot in finnish pop-rock songs; the hook plays 1-2 times on the original scale, then the song changes scale and plays the hook with chords and all fitted into the new scale and just sounds so fucking predictable and ugly it makes me sick. My boss has the radio on all the time so I'm just gonna have to cope with it.

http://www.musictheory.net/

fun times.

edit. I didn't mean to be rude, even if I may've sounded like that! Have fun experimenting and trying things. Those are some of the biggest reasons I even keep making music.

Last edited by JEO on Jul-06-2010 at 09:02

Thanks for tips and info guys, and sorry for my bad english