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DJ_Rafnel
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Registered: Jul 2009
Location: South Sterling, PA
Tutorial: Ableton Live, Your Loops, Your Way

Hey guys, I started doing some tutorials by request for Live.


Thought I might share this one with you. Any suggestions for future tutorials are welcome.

http://www.youtube.com/user/DJRafnel#p/u/1/jZpHn5Ff3S8

Basically I've had a few people notice that some of the loops I have used for my tracks end up sounding a lot different than the original loop. IE: things have been taken out because they interfered with other parts of the track.

This is good also if you only want to use small parts of the loop instead of the whole thing.

Hope you enjoy.

-Wayde Rafnel-


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music2dance2
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Great stuff thanks.

Last edited by music2dance2 on Jul-04-2010 at 10:39

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Andy28
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Nice tutorial would like to see more, keep them up!!


I like to slice my loops to midi then you can just delete midi notes that trigger those unwanted sounds, or just mute them in the drum rack it exports it to. You can rearrange the midi to give you a new loop, and it also allows you to process slices individually with effects.

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music2dance2
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When using the drum rack, can each sample have its own lane? Rather than everything in one lane in the arrangment view?

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quote:
Originally posted by music2dance2
When using the drum rack, can each sample have its own lane? Rather than everything in one lane in the arrangment view?


In clip view, click on the arrow at the top to open the group to show all its tracks, then you can add effects to each sound or route individual sounds to a buss for example.. But these sub groups dont show up in arrangment view.
Maybe you can create a midi track and sent it to a sound on the drum rack I really dont know never found the need to do this.. but you can create a new audio track and select audio from the drum rack and then choose which of its channels to send to it (but then your still relying on the racks one midi clip to trigger all the sounds).. Personly I dont bother because all I need to see is the racks one midi clip, and added effects placed on any sub groups will have its own lane to automate that can be selected from the drum racks lane..
If your just after single lanes for single hits (one shots) rather than loading them up in a rack then maybe using a "simpler" and not a drum rack would be better.. That all I do, only use the rack for slicing up loops and it takes up next to no cpu.. Just open a midi channel and drag your sample into the bottom of the screen and it opens simpler up for you

Hope this helps

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music2dance2
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Yeah have seen the grouped channels in the mixer but it doesnt translate in arrangement view

I've used reason in the past and a good feature was the ability to separate the lanes for different samples. This helps so that when you want to add a new sample you can just add a new lane with the midi pattern. Otherise you have to go back and edit all the existing clips to add the new pattern. Wouldnt want to use simpler as its creating new devices for each sample? Or does simpler allow multiple lanes?

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Yeah well i use simpler for most things from kicks to fx, hits sweeps etc and when i want to add something new i just open another 1 like to add a snare for example, its very easy on the cpu so i dont find doing this a problem and it gives everything it own channel/lane so i find you have total control over the lot

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DJ_Rafnel
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Thanks for the feedback guys. Good tips Andy about the drum rack too!

I don't really use it, just personal preference but that's good stuff.

Any ideas for another tutorial?


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I don't really use it, just personal preference


Well its something av not long started doing myself, I loved how you could do all this in reason using rex files... The tut you made was how i used to do things with loops but slicing to midi i feel i can get things done alittle quicker. Moving midi notes about on a piano roll, for me, is quicker than cutting sections of the loop out in arrangment view to rearange them to create a different loop and its easier to audition at the same time..

Keep up the good work and will look forward to more tutorials in the future!

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