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do you pitch kicks?
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1 pitch for whole project 4 17.39%
1 pitch per rootnote 1 4.35%
no pitching here 18 78.26%
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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Lelystad, Netherlands
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kick/perc tuning, only the first root note or all chords?
Just a silly question
do you guys tune the kick/percs to oyur first root note?
and what do oyu do when you got 4 notes in your bassline? have 4 tunes in 1 loop? i tend to that to sound very samplish like keytuning on a NUMARK MP3 mixer

so is there any consensus on when (not) to tune?


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cryophonik
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA

I selected the "no pitching here" option, but that's not entirely true. I do pitch my drums when necessary to get more/less low/mid/high frequencies out of them, but I rarely try to match the pitch to the key of the track. Also, I tend to layer 2-4 kicks most of the time to get the sound I want as well as EQ (on each layer) to filter/isolate the frequencies I want. I don't try to pitch-match any of the layers, but I will use both EQ and pitching to get the overall sound where I want it and eliminate any unwanted frequencies.


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Richard Butler
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Registered: Apr 2009
Location: London

I tend to tune kick and sometimes other perc sounds such as open hat in the intro part against the root bass note. Nothing more.

Hey, laidbackluke says in a youtube vid he takes 4 hours max to make, mix and master any track, so I need to get quicker, so tuning kicks to every bass sound - no wayyyy


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Rodri Santos
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Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Milan

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
I tend to tune kick and sometimes other perc sounds such as open hat in the intro part against the root bass note. Nothing more.

Hey, laidbackluke says in a youtube vid he takes 4 hours max to make, mix and master any track, so I need to get quicker, so tuning kicks to every bass sound - no wayyyy


And you see how crappy his tracks are.

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KilldaDJ
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Registered: Sep 2001
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b flat 3


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cammaxwell
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Registered: Mar 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada

I tune the percs to sound better in the mix, but haven't really tuned to key. I usually leave the kick alone or maybe tune it down or up a semi note if it sounds better...


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Zombie0729
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Registered: Oct 2003
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i think the style of the track depends on it. laidback luke for instance almost always uses tom drums as his bassline's. Since his kick's are mostly 808 style (which is just noise, floor punch + sine) and then he has Tom's inbetween his kicks,

boom ... DUM DUM boom


it makes sense for those toms & kicks, since they're both mostly sine waves to be playing similar notes. Popof for instance uses a lot of Rooted kick drums & minor 3rd basslines. again though, heavily sine wave instruments in the low. when the sounds are so similar it's better if they "talk to each other" in terms of placement and pitch.

for trance stuff i can't see the kick drum tunning being as important since your stuff is much more musically heavy with chord changes, melody changes, bass changes etc. Also the tone of your bass is typically heavy in frequency so again it won't be "talking" to the kick as much. I say find a kick that just "works" and don't worry about the pitch as much

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Mise
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Registered: May 2010
Location: Buenos Aires

I tune de kick to the key of the tune, but afterwards I EQ it a lot, always trying to glue it together with the bass

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Teezdalien
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Registered: Jul 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by Rodri Santos
And you see how crappy his tracks are.


+1. His tracks are rubbish imo.

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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
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Seems like a very pointless excercise to me, and one that'd only distract me from the actual songwriting process into an endless tweaking loop.


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Beatflux
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Registered: Mar 2006
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You don't always want your percs to be in tune, much like you don't want every note of your melody to be the root note.


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Waza
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Registered: Feb 2008
Location: Scotland, Edinburgh

Well I have several Kicks that i know work on there own without any layering and what key they are in. If they fit the track i will use them but I usually layer kicks so I just pick the right kick in the first place.

If you done this in every track i feel it slows down your creative side.


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