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Originally posted by Stephen Wiley Link to plug http://www.soundtoys.com/products/Crystallizer/ Really, really like this, but wondering if any other plugs out there are similar to it. I particular, the "Crystal Echoes" sound. The delay reverse retro type sound is just amazing. Really thinking about pulling the trigger here (maybe the whole pack) but I want to know if there are other plug ins like this. FWIW, this appears to be an emulation of the Eventide H3000 Danke

If you are going to buy it, just buy the bundle for $395. The other plugins are just as good and better in a lot of ways.

Still trying to find a plug-in that can do the reverse delay type sounds this thing does. I love this plug but I want to see if others are out there because this particular plug doesnt offer a ton of features, but that reverse is breath taking.

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Originally posted by Stephen Wiley FWIW, this appears to be an emulation of the Eventide H3000

FWIW the guys behind SoundToys are ex Eventide employees and had a heavy hand in the desgin and programming of the H3000

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Originally posted by Eric J If you are going to buy it, just buy the bundle for $395. The other plugins are just as good and better in a lot of ways.

This.

SoundToys is imho a quality effects bundle and well worth the cost of entry.

With these, Logic's built in effects (mainly Space Desginer and Delay Designer) plus one other 3rd party effect, I'm very happy with what I have at my disposal, and not intrested in anything else. (apart from dblue Glitch, but that's not on Mac)

A couple of hardware boxes added to that as well, and I'm very well sorted.

Highly recommended from me, but I'm also of the school of thought that it's better to have a small number of high quality items, then lots of crap. Quality over quantity as they say.

Yea I see your point about getting the package, but I already have spent and own some things that I really don't need that are in that package. For instance I have the UAD Moog Filter which cost me $199 alone but it blows away Filter Freak. When it comes to Delays I have UAD DM1, Cooper Time Cube, and the RE-201. That cancels the need for echoboy. I don't care about the other tools to be honest, which is why I'm looking for something exactly like Crystallizer to see if it's cheaper. It's hard for me to justify to myself $200 just so I can have reverse delayed sounds. That could very well likely be hidden in another delay program out there, which means I'd be paying $200 for literally just one patch. And the crystallizer doesn't offer much at all versus most delay units, so again, would like to see what else is out there.