I kinda just realized today that I'm sick of most melodic trance. Not sick as in done producing it for good, but sick as in most of it just sounds too neurotic and cheesy sounding for my taste. I mean I love the music, but I feel myself being pulled towards more tribal sounding type music.

I don't really know a lot of tribal music except for what I can find on youtube. And I should prob mention I've had an obsession with MANY of Tony Morans remixes, well really just his intros. I know they are simple, but they have a very "primal" sound to them. Is this intro considered tribal?

Tony Moran Link 1

Mainly from 0 - 1:13, I kinda lose interest once the vocals come in. But is that a basic tribal beat?

I can't really find the exact sound I'm going for. I want less synths and more toms, more percs, more drums and more groove, less speed, off beat basses, congos, cans, etc etc. Thats pretty much my idea of what tribal is. In regular trance sometimes you get cool drum intros, but once the leads come in the groove can become neurotic and too speedy which often distracts me with all the different elements being played. I wanna focus on having every drum element being part of a single groove, not a million different things happening at once.

Does anyone here know any tribal music that I can use as a reference? Any "classics" maybe? It doesn't seem like a popular genre because a lot of tracks I'm finding on youtube are amateur. Is there any good artists that do strictly tribal tracks? I'm trying to learn how to make it basically.

2003 Tribalmaster1 by Mad For Brad

my only tribal attempt but it is still quite trancy. I think it is mostly just the rhythm that gives it a quality you would describe as tribal.

Here is an old classic tribalish trance collab between Humate and Rabbit In The Moon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QGrgTotpw&fmt=18

You're right that it's not all that popular, certainly not as much as tribal house. I think it used to be a bit more popular to have "tribal" sounds like congas and stuff in trance, back in the early to mid '90s. After that things kind of sped up and veered in the direction of less in your face percs, in favor of bigger synth leads.

Robby, you are approaching the coming of age milestone that affects most EDM enthusiasts;

It starts with wanting just some tribal elements in your trance and ends with you listening to deep house, while wearing a smoking jacket.

Seriously though, I had this same feeling nearly 10 years ago and I think you'll find yourself looking at different forms of EDM...but if you can bring those elements back in to trance then you can make something very interesting.....

Is there such thing as 'tribal-trance'?

Anyways, this is an example of what I call 'tribal-tech house':

Nick Cenik - 1 42am (Original Mix) [INCORRECT MUSIC]

Two of the most common characteristics of tribal seem to be the presence of (reliance on) 1) numerous drum grooves (toms, congas, etc.) and 2) African/Latin/Spanish/etc. vocals.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Robby, you are approaching the coming of age milestone that affects most EDM enthusiasts; It starts with wanting just some tribal elements in your trance and ends with you listening to deep house, while wearing a smoking jacket.

LOL!

This board does have a big smoking jacket contingent. Just read Music Discussion sometime.

drums......extensive use of toms in particular will give a "tribal" feel - they need to be the focus instead of your brass hi hats and cymbals

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I used this track to successfully decimate several dance floors back in the day. One of the best examples of "tribal", IMO.

by decimated , do you mean they all left ? That was so fucking bland with absolutely no groove. I might buy that some were dancing buy decimated ? Jesus. Must of been some good drugs going around to make that even danceable.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad by decimated , do you mean they all left ?

Of course not.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad That was so fucking bland with absolutely no groove. I might buy that some were dancing buy decimated ?

"dancing buy decimated" What does this statement mean?

Anyway, it sure worked on the dance floor, in several instances.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad Jesus. Must of been some good drugs going around to make that even danceable.

Maybe, but it worked. I guess you just had to be there.

I've seen people dancing to no music at raves so who fucking knows. I just don't see how anyone would find that song particularly good let alone stand out.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad I've seen people dancing to no music at raves so who fucking knows. I just don't see how anyone would find that song particularly good let alone stand out.

Doesn't really translate properly when you are sitting on a room listening on YouTube, gotta hear it on a big system. Sasha dropped this back then and it blew the roof off the place. The dance floor is a very different place.

Like take Jark Prongo's Moving Thru Your System. Doesn't sund particularly great over YouTube sitting in a room, but hear it on a club system at 2am and it kills. That's why DJing experience is so important when you are producing club tracks, it helps you to understand what works on a dance floor.

Last edited by Eric J on Sep-01-2010 at 01:44