It'll get you started.

A couple of things to bear in mind:

Numark are one of the cheapest brands and as a result their build quality is fairly weak. At that price you're not going to get a lot more, but don't expect this setup to last you a lifetime before channel faders start crackling etc, especially if you're getting it 2nd hand.

Those CD decks will occasionally have a short delay between pressing the play button and the track actually starting to play - a fraction of a second, but it'll still throw you out a bit. I don't actually see that as any bad thing when you're learning... you'll learn to work around it, and working around problems with the equipment is one of the most useful skills to learn as a DJ.

The sound quality isn't going to be great either, but that's not going to stop you learning how to mix.

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Plus if your learning to dj... Don't get a program that beat matches for you....'learn

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Originally posted by 360madness The Numark fusion 222 Does anyone have any feedback on this package? I am learning how to DJ and I am thinking about picking up this package for $150 used.

If you're doing CD's then stick with pioneer. Do NOT ever go cheap with CDJ's.

Also, as much as I despise computer/laptop DJ's for their lack of beatmatching ability...it is where everything is going. 150$ will get you a decent controller, and you can pair it with whatever software you choose.

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i agree with feelgood, i would purchase a midi controller and traktor, you will learn a lot more this way in my opinion. you will have visual access to your waveforms and can correlate things and make realizations easier. I was mixing on vinyl a few years, after that i tried out software, and my mixing jumped on everything i used.(personal story might not relate to others)

note, numark is a cheap brand as stated, it doesnt have much shelf-life, especially if you're buying second-hand, i would strongly disagree of picking it up. if you do really want cd players, aim for second hand pioneers or even denons have much better build quality, its obvious.

you can practice beatmching with traktor and your midi controller, just bind keys or jogs/sliders to your pitch and beatmatch without using the bpm display and using the synchronization button.

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Originally posted by MSZ you will learn a lot more this way in my opinion. you will have visual access to your waveforms and can correlate things and make realizations easier.

Worst advice I've seen on here in a long time. (Not having a go mate, let me explain).

The second you introduce a visual aspect to dj'ing the dj (all newbs in particular) will stare at that screen like their life depended on it!

You are much better off learning to beat match with your ears only. With that visual guideline in front of you you will naturally look at the screen to check for any fuck ups.

I purchased Serato when it first came out a good few years ago. I used to take a piece of paper and cover up the vertical wave displays for hours and hours to force myself to use them in the same way that I used vinyl for the first year that i had my tech 1210's for.

I always told myself not to look at the bpm or the waveforms but always found myself having a peak.

Yes your advice on getting a midi controller etc is sound but to say you'll advance quicker by having that visual access is a false statement.

I personally know dj's who have been offered a gig at a big club but have turned it down because they only had cdj's on offer and the person couldn't dj without the aid of his laptop. Fact. Don't become one of those dj's. Versatility will be one of your biggest strengths as you grow your skill set over the years!

I plan on learning to beat match without displays. It just seems like the right way to start out but i also want a package that will let me advance without having to upgrade too early. I cant really afford pioneers and I am am basically learning within my own house. Not ready to be mobile anytime soon so i think going with software and controllers are not what im looking for right now. I want to start out pretty basic and get my fundamentals down right

i dont agree with you nelly, and thanks a lot of calling my advice the worst you've seen in a while when i was trying to help, congrats.

i believe it will strongly help the noobs plot out their cue points, timings, and exit points(as well as eqing and leveling in relation to waveform displacement). those who choose to use the aides as crutches are simply not willing to learn any other way, so its up to the user not the tool to make the judgement.

everyone is different and you're being elitist and ignorant. for example i have a mate that started on vinyl, for many years(hes a terrible dj). hes had years to research and hone his skills, but as soon as he got cdjs he was obsessed with the bpm counter and still cant pull off good exits and transitions, go figure; instead of learning he takes the easy way out and thats up to the person, hence its up to the person and not the tool. i see your point about bad habits, but again its really up to the person to decide how dedicated he wants to be.

Last edited by MSZ on Oct-12-2010 at 23:21

learn on proper gear first as last. saves you time and money. a nice starter pack is 2xcdj350 and djm350.
a nice noob setup, takes mp3 over usb which is cool.

palm, youre always suggesting things outside the posters budget bracket, its obvious hes going for economy, and not the other end of the spectrum. we've recommended him to pick up a second-hand pair of pios or denons. but alas, i seen to have a cvnt streak on ta, this will be last time i try to help someone in the dj booth./crymode

lol im just saying that when your doing something, do it right the first time! save a few more months and live like an Buddhist priest or something. budgets are only there to please someone else but yourself. all budgets should be busted.

also, this hot chick uses pioneer. that alone is a reason to save a little more:

Last edited by Zak McKracken on Oct-12-2010 at 21:10

I would love to spend 800 plus on a system but I am a college student living in Cali. Not much cash flow for a respectable setup