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whiskers
old skool

Registered: Sep 2001
Location: in your dreams
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the matrix has you...
there's more to life than we can imagine. just think about other dimensions - you can't see and imagine how they'd look, but they're still there. when a sphere passes throught a 2-dimensional plane, you see a dot which gets bigger, becomes a circle, and then becomes a dot again and disappears. well, when a hyper-sphere (4D sphere) passes through 3D space, you see what? a sphere!
ET. isn't there a slight chance that there is ET coexisting with the same world as us, but in another dimension? they can see us, we can't see them.
parallel worlds. have you ever watched "Sliders" (damn, that's one of me favorite shows)
and btw, aren't we using only like 10% of our brain?
how'd we know we're not some kind of an experiment? maybe our world currently exists in some kind of a test tube somewhere in the lab of the creatures that are searching for the same, or similar answers.
and as for pain - it's sorta like gravity. it's there, but you can't prove it. i mean, if you really think about it, what is that strange force that makes giant-sized objects attract things. intermolecular attractions? a large number of atom forces? well, scientists don't know what holds atoms together.
oh, yeah, almost forgot. how do we explain such things as love and hope? what is love? an emotional and physical attraction? is it as simple as that? hope? is there even anything to define it? "hope is a denial of reality"? maybe there's another branch of study, larger than both science and religion, something that neither science nor religion can explain.
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Jul-31-2002 15:46
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JohnSmith
Agent Smith

Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops
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Everything can be explained by science, even the so called supernatural.
it's just that our feeble human minds don't quite get it all.
we are figuring out more and more each day though.
imagine back in the 1800's when some guy said that sickness was carried by little things called "germs" that we could't see.
everyone thought he was crazy, but he was right.
such is life. there are things going on you can not possibly begin to understand, but in time, we will figure them out.
and, pain can be detected. it is electrical impulses going up the nerves to the brain, where it is interpreted as pain.
i believe in spirtuality, the 6th sense, and all that.
it can all be explained with science though. for example in the bible, (if you believe in christianity), god was supposed to have destroyed 2 cities on either side of a river with "two balls of white fire"
geologists went back to that same area, and measured the radioactivity levels there. at approximately the same date as in the bible, there were twin nuclear explosions on either side of that river, long before that technology had been developed.
god exists, but he still follows the rules in other words.
kudos to the person quoting the "truth is a pathless land" passage.
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Jul-31-2002 19:38
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SportTrance
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Nov 2001
Location: TX TA #4
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| quote: | Originally posted by JohnSmith
and, pain can be detected. it is electrical impulses going up the nerves to the brain, where it is interpreted as pain.
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Well, it doesn't exactly mean there IS pain, you know? We have millions of impulses going to our brain every split second anyway, but exactly what are they....Like I said, we see the affects of pain, but can we officially say "that is pain, it hurts this much, and feels like this" by reading electronic impulses? without ever experiencing the pain or ever speaking to a person? What exactly IS pain and hurt? A doctor will say nerves are affected, etc....and you are IN pain...but thats a science related view. Like we all say "you can't understand someone's pain".....kinda makes you think more about it. Where does this pain come from? Lets face it, pain is miserable, we've all been in severe pain at one point in our life, to the point of tears, causing your body to react, your mind to react, etc. Something so powerful, but there is no exact explanation for it.
I mean, the religion aspect definitely has to come in on this topic. I am looking at it at a level higher than science. As we know, with all emotions, there is good, and bad, simple as that. Pain, bad, orgasm, good. I mean, the distinguishment between them both is odd. Besides any physical element, which doesn't explain anything but just what CAUSES the good/bad feeling, what exactly is it really? Bah, gettin real deep in this one.....I hope you see my point of view, this topic of pain can go on and on forever, if you don't use ANY religious aspect, which is where most of us turn to, when questions like this, aren't answered.
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Jul-31-2002 20:26
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JohnSmith
Agent Smith

Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops
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I completely understand your point.
what is pain?
ok, try this one?
what is sound? it's vibrations that move your ear drum, which sends electrical impulses to your brain. it's your BRAIN that interprets them as the wonderful music that trance is. that part is tough to explain with science.
now, with pain and pleasure, it comes from cause and effect. when you touch a hot stove, a certain kind of impulse goes down your arm to your brain, and it knows it as pain. now, if you left your hand there, it would get burned right? so your brain interprets a negative connotation to it, so you won't do that. but really, it is just another sensation.
likewise with orgasms. it feels good, so you want to do it, so you can continue to populate the earth.
it's all about motivation.
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Jul-31-2002 21:01
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