Ok seriously I just do that because I'm insecure and my mommy never hugged me.
Anyway, I had the gift of 3 days straight of doing nothing but trance music. I mean there was xmas, a blizzard, then the day after the blizzard, and for about 14 hours a day 3 days straight all I did was play on Fl Studio. Usually I get sick by day 2 and start losing my mind, but if you guys saw what I submitted in the random thread yesterday Im actually begining to churn out ideas out of nowhere.
I'm going to try real hard to finish this one, and I will have room for pads once I lower some other shit. I'm really begining to realize a lot of the "drive" isn't soley from the bass groove itself, but how well you can bus the kick/bass together. I was playing with Waves L3 Maximizer and I love how it can make a bass line bounce with the kick. I also did volume automations on the grittier bass (sidechained one) to give the mid bass depth by contrast. I put a tad bit of overdrive over my percussion, then shape it with a transient shaper so its sharp and plucky, and then I lower it and run it through a noise gate. It really seems to make the percussion snap through the mix wayyy better than before at the same volume. Although my drum/groove capabilites are still largely terrible.
Its missing a certain "tightness" and thats because the timing between the kick/bass and percussion is off a few ms. Fl studios a bitch correcting plugins with latency, but I did the best I could. Tommorow I'll figure out what offset I need and it will likely sound a little tighter.
Anyways anything you can think of in terms of lowering/raising levels or making sounds better let me know. I'm a bit happier with my sub but never my mid bass. The dutch styled synth at the end is my virus, everything else is software.
hey robby, I like what you have going there, the first improvement i could suggest is that the kick is not working with the bass and sub bass.
If you find the correct kick to glue the bass together, it would sound much better!
keep it up man
Dec-29-2010 03:56
Kysora
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Aug 2009
Location: Hampshire, IL
Holy shit, you actually posted some music for once.
The only complaints I'd have involve songwriting, it's kinda lackluster for me. A static bassline and a few plucky synths, from what I can there's not even a chord progression. It's not horrible but it's not exactly inspiring or anything. The synths are a tad generic too, it sounds like you went for an attempt to mimic the qualities of uplifting trance and both the creativity and songwriting kind of took a hit for it.
Kick sounds a bit quiet too. Could use a bit of extra punch to really come through the mix. I hear it but don't really feel it unless I'm listening for it.
Also, and this is coming from someone who loves Blueman.. you're not there yet. Not even close. If it makes you feel any better, neither am I, haha. Not to shit all over your parade of course.
Dec-29-2010 04:06
Aesthetic
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: somewhere between the melody and the pads
Not a bad job, but definately not Blueman. His basses are often complex layered patterns and stuff.. but a good start mate, I'd just get a look at introducing a few other patterns in the mid range if you want that driving Blueman style
Awesome thanks guys. And Ky you are right usually I try working out some progression before I start piecing things together but this was not one of those tracks and it obviously suffered because of that.
But I do usually like to come in with a more neutral or happy sounding melody, and once they break drops I like it to change into something a lot more serious or sad sounding. It just like that type of contrast for the break. The melody in this one is extremely generic like you said and theres so much more I can do in terms of that so I will.
I think I'm getting too much sub from sub bass intefering with the kick, so I'm going to cut out a bit more lows and see if it punches better. If not I'm just replacing the kick entirely.
So I have 5 new goals then:
1. Get the kick breaking through by opening up room in the sub or replace it all together.
2. Work out a legitimate melody progression.
3. Work on getting more definition/mid/hi frequencies from the mid bass. I'll likely layer a more resonant oscillator all together over it possibly a sync for some presence.
4. A lot of sounds are mono'd that should be seperated, and once those sounds are widened a bit that will also help the mid bass.
5. Last is atmosphere/pads. I already have a tense sound that I can keep real low and wide and its really going to add another dimension in terms of the emotional content. But I was playing with it before and it breaks through beautifull I just had a feeling I'd be redoing the melody so I'll do that first.
I think thats a good starting point though and if my expectations are reasonable maybe by next week I can compete with Mr Blueman. I figured today might be rushing it lol.
Dec-29-2010 04:50
Subtle
Subreme tranceaddict
Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown
Be careful so you dont overdo it, working too much on a track can make it worse.
Originally posted by Kysora
Holy shit, you actually posted some music for once.
The only complaints I'd have involve songwriting, it's kinda lackluster for me. A static bassline and a few plucky synths, from what I can there's not even a chord progression. It's not horrible but it's not exactly inspiring or anything. The synths are a tad generic too, it sounds like you went for an attempt to mimic the qualities of uplifting trance and both the creativity and songwriting kind of took a hit for it.
Kick sounds a bit quiet too. Could use a bit of extra punch to really come through the mix. I hear it but don't really feel it unless I'm listening for it.
Also, and this is coming from someone who loves Blueman.. you're not there yet. Not even close. If it makes you feel any better, neither am I, haha. Not to shit all over your parade of course.
+1
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