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Fran666
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Registered: Apr 2007
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WMC vs UMF ... Fight !

Why two different weeks ???

well club space owner decided to bash ultra big time. check this out:



"Hello Electronic Music lovers,

With WMC comes WMC Drama, the two just seem to go hand in hand. This year the big D is all about the two different Dates (WMC and Ultra) which are confusing the fcuk out of everyone and raising all sorts of questions… What is up with the 2 dates? What is really happening? What is the inside scoop? What is Club Space doing? When should we come to Miami? My father always had one answer for every question, when in doubt always chase the money and sure enough this is no exception so pay close attention because I am only explaining this once…

This year and once again, Ultra is trying to monopolize WMC by engaging exclusive contracts with all major DJs which will not allow them to perform at your favorite dance clubs. Last year they got Tiesto, Dead Mau, Guetta, Carl Cox, Armin…) to sign Ultra exclusives and this year they are going after everyone else. What this means to the consumer is that you will no longer be able to enjoy your favorite DJ for extended sets after midnight at your favorite clubs, instead you will be forced to listen to them for a one hour set before midnight in a crowded field of dust, mud and ravers. You can also forget about seeing them at your favorite pool parties. You either pay the overpriced Ultra admission or you don’t get to see and dance to your favorite DJ at all, so much for democracy and your rights as a consumer. Now, I love Ultra and what they bring to the game but I do not agree with their greedy strategy to manipulate and monopolize Music Conference. This is just not good for anyone.

WMC used to be about free parties with DJs and industry folks sharing and enjoying new music. Now, it is about greed and money with Ultra and all the clubs fighting over talent, hotels charging 4 times what they are used to and agents and DJs banking on the demand. As the owner of Space, I like all the demand and the high prices as it allows us to raise our prices and make more money and Space will be packed regardless of what DJ is performing and what decision you make. In fact, the better Ultra does, the better we do as we are right across the street and at midnight everyone comes our way. However, as a 35 year supporter of Electronic Music I cannot consciously stand back and see this shit take place. This is not what EM is about and it surely is not what I want to see WMC turn into. In fact, for the past 5 years I have made it a point to stop the door cover at a certain price knowing that we could easily charge double the cover. Our presales discount tickets even start at half of the door cover charged on the day of the event. This Industry has been very good to me and I for this I am eternally grateful. Thanks and thanks again.

Now what does this mean to you? Well, unfortunately the consumer is the one that ends up paying for everything. As long as there is just one music festival and one weekend as long as you keep supporting and feeding the greed you will keep suffering the high prices. This year you have a chance to make a difference and bring back what Music Conference and Electronic Music used to be about. You can either come to Miami on the last week of March, support the greedy monopoly, keep taking it up the ass and lose your right to seeing your favorite DJ at your favorite club or you can come the second week of March, claim back your wallet and your nightlife. It is really all up to you… your life, your music, your choice. The good folks at WMC have taken a brave step towards bringing saneness and normality to this over populated and overpriced chaos by choosing a separate week from Ultra for you to hold their parties and events. Now, if we could just get someone to start another music festival during WMC week things would really stabilize. Gordon Gekko once said, “greed is good” but I truly believe competition is even better. Humm… if I were you I would not book your tickets just yet.

Finally, a good friend pointed out something which we are all overlooking and that is that “without WMC there would not be an Ultra Music Festival.”

See you the second week in March,
Louis Puig
Owner and Resident DJ of Club Space"


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Crosstown Rebels ‎** WMC ANNOUNCEMENT ** Crosstown Rebels GET LOST PARTY The Electric Pickle, Miami is 100% confirmed for Sat. 26th March 2011. See you all there!! (Tickets on Sale in February.......

...saw this on my fb news feed earlier this afternoon...i may be wrong (i think its too early to tell for sure) but i think parties like the shelborne dj mag pool party, beatport pool party, circoloco pool party, etc...will be held between march 22nd-28th...im hoping for a repeat of sasha and digweed at mansion & their boat party.

i couldn't give a shit about ultra personally...i'm way more interested in parties like the one i mentionned above.

imo, i don't think space's owner is bashing ultra. i think he's telling it how it is. if more and more a-class djs are signing exclusive ultra contracts, well then, he's right. that kinda thing makes for a kind of monopoly, which in turn generally affects consumers (us) negatively. for example, if s&d sign an exclusive ultra contract, then that means no mansion party/boat party, which blows. and ultra for sure has more spending power than the smaller venues so why would these a-class djs play separate gigs throughout the week of wmc rather than just play ultra and make at least double what they would have made playing the smaller venues. their agents want their cut to be as large as possible and that being said, signing an exclusive ultra contract likely means more money and less work...a highly lucrative option. just my 2 cents.

discuss!


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jester
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I am going which ever weekend has Sasha & Digweed @ Mansion. 16 Bit Lolitas, Zabiela, Holden, Pole Folder and Umek.

Of all the years to go back.. this shit has to happen hopefully we wont have surprises when we get to Miami.

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quote:
Originally posted by jester
I am going which ever weekend has Sasha & Digweed @ Mansion.


im with you 100% on that one but...i heard *rumours* that this party may not even happen this year...mainly because the organizers for the event at mansion will likely be outbid by other, larger promoters/venues (ultra organizers perhaps?)

this is all just speculation tho, i don't know anything for sure. i don't think anyone really does except for artists' agents who are dealing with offers and contracts now.

and anyways, i was at the mansion party last year. what a disaster. overcapacity for surrrrreeee. and firemen not letting anyone downstairs to the main floor for 4+ hours. still, one of the most memorable nights of wmc 2010 for me.

i suppose the #1 party i wanted to attend this time around was the s&d boat party...hopefully that's still happening. it's kind of a staple event for wmc, no?


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quote:
Originally posted by ~*Stereohead*~
i suppose the #1 party i wanted to attend this time around was the s&d boat party...hopefully that's still happening. it's kind of a staple event for wmc, no?


It sure is... now the fun part trying to get on the boat

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Marcus007
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francis when r the circus parties? they booked yet?

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It's about fucking time. Yeah, I am going on the second of march then!!!!

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One thing... if S&D do sign a contract with Ultra. I'll just cancel my trip all together. I'd rather spend a week in NY then go to Ultra.

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wtv im going end of month

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This whole.... WMC vs UMF reminds me of this...

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quote:
Originally posted by Marcus007
wtv im going end of month


i think it's the best thing for us dude. maher's booked the 22nd. crosstown rebels party the 26th. ultra still happening 26th-28th. maybe it's too early to tell but i rly believe this date switch will come back and smack them in the face. maybe.


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Fran666
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quote:
Originally posted by Marcus007
francis when r the circus parties? they booked yet?



no news on that yet...


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