I'm after kicks with a tad of live room, and that sound like they were 'driven' through a £10k tube compressor (now I sound like a noob yearning for tube and warmth without a clue what they mean, eh!) where the attack phase in particular has the special almost nasal / nutty quality to it.
I went through all my kick sample packs including vengeance 3 and cubase5 content looking for a very high quality accoustic WARM kicks.
None could cut it, and those that had potential were still lacking and none of my software helped me transform my accoustic kick range sufficiently (in the main TRACS3 Deluxe bundle with Fairchild 670 etc).
Here's an example (see below) - but beware, on first listening it may seem unremarkable, or so I thought myself ("oh that's just any old accoustic hipassed kick, no problem"), but listen real close to the attack phaze of the hipassed kick that starts from the track beginning.
I wasted about 3 hours trying to get the right sound. I cannot lift it from the track below as the kick is never isolated.
As such I want to buy an accoustic pack recorded to the very highest standard that has hopefuly utilised somthing like Cranesong tube outboard or similar.
I've often seen liquid drums mentioned in the past but never heard / used them.
I also recall in the back of my mind people using, is it, 'Thomas Peston' or someone with a name like that?
Last edited by Richard Butler on Jan-12-2011 at 11:00
Jan-12-2011 10:52
studiobob
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Thomas Penton Drums is the one you mean. theres also a deadmaus pack floating round the net which has some good acoustic drums on. failing that look up BFD Drum Module which is really good.
Originally posted by Mad for Brad
that track is not using anything remotely acoustic. It sounds quite normal and definitely within the reach of any of the Vengeance Libraries.
Heh, my thought exactly.
Jan-12-2011 19:45
Richard Butler
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Originally posted by Mad for Brad
that track is not using anything remotely acoustic. It sounds quite normal and definitely within the reach of any of the Vengeance Libraries.
Well I tried every kick from vengeance and hours of tweeking. To be frank I thought as you, it's just a little high passed kcik, no probs, but that first early kick is so far elusive. I dont mean I want an exact copy, but close would be nice.
I just spent another 2 hours straight and didn't get it.
All my EQ's are not able to give this sound.
Anyway I've made my own and will settle for it. Way too knocky woody though, and not the nice rubber neck kick this one has with a very specific eq quality to it.
Incidentaly it most definitely is an accoustic drum - I'm not talking about the main low kick that enters later in the track.
I'd be willing to bet $10 no one here would get this type of kick, thats right $10 whole bucks on the line
I believe you're hearing a modulation envelope acting on the pitch of an electronic kick. Very, very fast decay and everything else set to zero. Gives a little blip.
Originally posted by tehlord
I believe you're hearing a modulation envelope acting on the pitch of an electronic kick. Very, very fast decay and everything else set to zero. Gives a little blip.
Well I've listened to it for 5 hours, trying to match it and that was the first thing I tried. I'm giving up on it as I am more or less certain it's a high quality tube compressor with very fast release time which gives the attack that rubber nasal squeal effect, and none of my eq can strip away the freqs anything like good enough to match this.
Thanks for help everyone.
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