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Fredrik Hel
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Helsinki, Finland
A few newbie questions

This is my first post on these forums so hello everyone.

For many years now I've been a big fan of trance music, which nowadays is my favorite music genre. I think of myself as a fairly musical person, having played guitar and some piano some years ago. Usually when I hear a great film score or music of other genres that I like, I start to think about how the songs could be modified into a trance format, and at least in my head some of the ideas don't sound half bad (even if I say so myself). Anyway, the bottom line is that I would like to try making some trance music of my own, and I'm hoping to get some advice. I'd like to point out that I've browsed through the sticky threads and used the search function, but there's just so much information out there that I haven't been able to find the answer to a few basic questions I have. I'm sorry if these questions have been asked before.

1.
I read some of the information found on the websites in the sticky threads, and while I did find information on this subject I found it to be a bit confusing and I was hoping to get some clarification. I'd like to know what the absolute minimum equipment for creating professional quality trance music is. I read some of the articles on tweakheadz.com and it seems to me that I'll have to spend tons to even get started. If it matters, here's some trance music I really like, so the hypothetical question is, what kind of equipment would be required to create music of this quality:

Cyrus And The Joker - Milky Way
Robert Miles - Fable
York - The Awakening (Class 1 Cut)
Matias Lehtola - Burning Bright

I know this is a pretty silly question, I relize that creating music of this quality takes years or even decades of experience to create, I'm just interested to know how much money a hobby like this will end up costing me in the short and long term.

2.
Another problem I'm having is discerning the difference between different subgenres of trance. I've read some articles describing them, but the different genres seem to have many qualities in common with eachother so once again I'm very confused. I thought the trance I mostly listen to is psytrance, but then I listened to some psytrance albums a few day ago and relized I was way off. Could someone maybe point me to a website with audio examples or for that matter tell me what trance genre the tracks I mentioned above belong to?

I had more questions but I forgot them so that's it for now. Any help would be appreciated, thank you.

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brucelee6783
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Location: Lafayette, LA

This should be in the production forum.

There isn't really a "minimum" amount you will have to spend. It all depends on how well you understand the equipment that you already have, and if you are using it to it's full potential.

I started to think that maybe if you were thinking of recording quality vocals in an acoustically conditioned room, then the prices could easily skyrocket...but even studio time for recording your vocals can be rented cheaply for quick "in and out" recording sessions.

Don't make the mistake of thinking you have to buy $10,000 worth of gear, before doing some more research into the type of sound you are specifically interested in.

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Zak McKracken
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minimum requirement ? PC+Reaper.

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Fredrik Hel
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Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Helsinki, Finland

Thank you for the replies. I assume that by reaper you mean the music software? Won't I need some sort of midi controller to use the program, and is the program alone really enough to create good quality music?

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Quazar
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Location: Los Angeles, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Fredrik Hel
Thank you for the replies. I assume that by reaper you mean the music software? Won't I need some sort of midi controller to use the program, and is the program alone really enough to create good quality music?

Most programs will allow you to use your QWERTY keyboard as a piano/keyboard, so that's an option to save some money initially.

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Rodri Santos
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Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Milan

i have a midi keyboard and i don't use it, is as sad as this, one of my wills this year is plug it to the computer. So you can live without it honestly.

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n3lly
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Location: Dublin

Moved to production forum..

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pozz
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discogs is your guide (to find more music, not to genrefication - the nomenclature is always sketchy). i suggest you start downloading everything you can get you hands on from the past 20 years and in about 2 years of steady listening you can tell the difference between subgenres no problem. this will eat all of your time but you'll be much more knowledgeable.

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Fredrik Hel
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Helsinki, Finland

quote:
Originally posted by Quazar
Most programs will allow you to use your QWERTY keyboard as a piano/keyboard, so that's an option to save some money initially.


I read somewhere that Reason is a newbie friendly and overall solid music software, do you have any idea if it supports the use of QWERTY keyboards in this manner? Also, is my laptop keyboard enough or will I need to plug in a separate keyboard for the music software to recognize it? Lastly, if Reason is not a good choice, what would you guys recommend for me to get instead?

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KilldaDJ
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i started messing with fruityloops. seems to work for me.

entry level, i would stick with either reason or FLstudio.

i tried reason but couldnt be arsed to learn how to use it, fruityloops had some demo files with it and i played with them intitally and had reasonable results before i was questioning fidelity of sound and how to make it sound more...better.


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Zak McKracken
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quote:
Originally posted by n3lly
Moved to production forum..

lol

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Zak McKracken
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yes Reason is a great program for those who like it (like myself). you dont need anything else, you can draw notes with your mouse. Very effective.

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