I've been around long enough to know most of you loathe a great deal of the "trance" hits like Sandstorm, Zombie Nation, Castles in the Sky, 9 Pm (Till I come) and in my opinion for good reason.
This got me thinking about other chart successes like Chicane-Saltwater (UK no. 5) and Don't Give Up (UK no. 1, System F-Out of the Blue (UK top 20), DJ Sakin and Friends-Protect your mind (UK no. 1), Paul Van Dyk-Tell Me Why (UK no. 7) and others like it. I don't see anyone on here calling these chessy so I'd like to know once and for all:

Does chart success always destroy a good song?

Chart success never destroys the song, IMO.

It's just that usually crap sells

Seriously, though - some people seem to have some kind of elitist attitude... "if it's popular it must suck".
I don't know why, to be honest - yes, granted, it's usually the cheesy ones that sell but apparently as soon as some tracks hit it big time the artists become "sellouts".

I still think Sandstorm is a decent tune. Not a masterpiece by any means, but listenable nevertheless... I just got sick of it when it got totally overplayed (and coming from Finland, I can honestly say we've had to hear it EVEN MORE than you guys) but maybe I can listen to it again one day and remember the times I heard it for the first time.

Do I have a point?
Err...
I did, but I forgot it... I'm tired.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Chart success never destroys the song, IMO. It's just that usually crap sells Seriously, though - some people seem to have some kind of elitist attitude... "if it's popular it must suck". I don't know why, to be honest - yes, granted, it's usually the cheesy ones that sell but apparently as soon as some tracks hit it big time the artists become "sellouts". I still think Sandstorm is a decent tune. Not a masterpiece by any means, but listenable nevertheless... I just got sick of it when it got totally overplayed (and coming from Finland, I can honestly say we've had to hear it EVEN MORE than you guys) but maybe I can listen to it again one day and remember the times I heard it for the first time. Do I have a point? Err... I did, but I forgot it... I'm tired.

id have to agree...songs like sandstorm are what got me into trance, but then they get so overplayed you just get sick of them, and they become cheese, and then you get into the really good music and just kinda dont listen to the mainstream stuff a lot when theres so much more out there

Its rare for a good tune to make it into the top ten of the UK charts simply because it is daft little girls who buy the majority of all music sold. This means that Westlife will always be guaranteed a top ten place even though their music sucks. If a tune is catchy, and this normally means irratating, then it will do well. Give them something they can remember after being drunk on their alchopops and something that they can put in their mobile phones and they will love it.

I have always thought some tunes were just crap to start with, all Ian Van Dahl tunes are guff and poor productions with garbage lyrics. Rapture - never liked that tune to start with. PVD Tell me Why - easily his poorest production.

I get bored with tunes if they are overplayed, which makes me dislike them more!

But some tunes do remain unscathed. I still like System F - Out of the Blue and I still love Gouryella - Gouryella and both were fairly succesful commercially.

In order for a tune to be a chart success it needs a lot of radio airplay, and most dance tunes are a lot longer than the 2-3 minutes a tune needs to be to get radio airplay during peak time (not including EM's or Dance programs etc..). So 99% of the time, decent tunes are butchered down to the bare minimum, no intro, short buildup, one breakdown. Which in my eyes doesn't make a good tune.

its when ya hear it 20 million time on the radio, thats when ya start 2 get annoyed with it...........

some of those songs were PURE CHEESE.....but then again...all those artists don't care, they laughed all the way to the bank.

sandstorm is one of my all time favourite, even is it is popular!

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Originally posted by extepan sandstorm is one of my all time favourite, even is it is popular!

GAH!

Ok, so I just think that it depends on the chart. If it is Billboard or some other American chart it usually is cheese because people who live here are only exposed to cheese and what the industry want you to hear. If its anywhere else with a descent 'trance presence' the chances are its a great song!

-m

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