I need some help with equipment selection. I have the following sitting around:

1x Netgear WNDR3700
4x Netgear WN802T

Modems are a standard Comcast Arris, and that enormous U-Verse saucer. The end game here is to set one up as a failover.

Onto the network...
-Very basic wireless use. All regular users have N-based devices, but I need G as a back-up in some areas, for guests, etc.
-Additional switches will handle all intranet traffic, but I do have ports forwarded to some of those devices.
-APs can be hardwired. POE is handy, but not necessary.

Obviously, I'll need some sort of 2-WAN router (19" rack-mounted much preferred). Can I use that Netgear behind a boring, wired one, instead of buying some sort of hub for the APs? If so, can I use those access points in addition to a couple G-based ones?

Last, any major input on the router? I'd prefer to stick with Netgear or Cisco, just because I'm used to them.

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i writed a song.

I'm working on getting my computers into a network, or atleast sync them.

One of the computers will be used for file storage and samples, and if possible VST's, connected on an external, as well as potentially midi interface to hardware (as I only have 2 or three possible midi connections right now. If things go ahead, I'll also be running a 2.2ghz system and a 2.4ghz t7700 and t7500 processor dual core). Both them will be sigmatec audigy's I think plus an outboard extigy.. .. however i have no idea how the funds will work out.. two laptops is a little bit of madness but I'd like to use one for melodies, and the other for ryhtm. I'll have a edrum set I'm configuring for midi use as well as a mpd pad I'm not sure exactly how I'll do it yet. But I'd like to utilize all three computers into the mix. It is sort of ridiculously expensive though (as a hobby for a poorman). Of course the laptops have other uses as well (I quite accidentally put myself into a position to buy two) both are 3GB of ram... so between the two it will be 6GB of ram + 1 GB ram on the storage computer. Of course I'll also have some outboard equipment I'm going to try to get involved an access virus, mc303, keyboard, and a sampler.. but getting it all working, and it all running at the same time may be a stretch. Of course there is other stuff. How it likely may end up is that I'll connect everything to my mixer (and run with the 5 channels i have one for each laptop one for the virus, one for the mc303, and one for my turntables and dual cd deck (hooked up to a seperate 2 channel mixer)

all in all though the laptop alone handles most of my uses. One will be toggels and the other will be the drumset, and whatever else i need it for.. I just need to figure out how I'm going to sync it.

This is about callaghans gear though.. I really have no clue, I'm currently basically just using one computer.. I'll be running a lan, and trying to mix audio signals. I need to figure out how I'll be handling minitoring.. Luckily i have two 3.1 surround sound speaker systems.. so technically I may be able to run one for each laptop sync them somehow .. would sdpif work / firewire work? as both are equiped with it.. if I linked them together would there be some way that could be used? I honestly feel like flopping down 4000$ on two laptops is just insane. Although I am hoping that the purchase will last me the life of the three year warranty unless I have a windfall. Of course one of the benifits is having close to 1TB of data storage now between 3 large drives and a few smaller ones. Although 1TB externals can be bought for like 300$ or less now... .. a safer bet may have been to buy a nice workstation and one laptop... but I'm in the situation I'm in for a reason.. there is no way I normally would have bought two laptops.

Anyway long rant...

It should last.. but the "new software" that uses what it has .. seems to constantly occur.. if new more powerful stuff didn't happen then what..

(what I'd really like to see is a sound equivlent of the physics processor engines -as hopefully these will become standard in graphics cards)

none the less I'll hopefully be able to watch TV on the laptop record video, utilize voice commands -and that is the cool part.. both laptops have onboard mics... I'll be using dragon.. so if I give voice commands, they should follow the commands at the same time.. of course noise is an issue, but with a spilter audio cable or using bluetooth with both them interacting with the device.. I can fork commands...

We'll see what happens with it. (I think getting a car might be a more rational choice for some people...)


(I'm hoping that about 2000$ of the laptop funds will be reimbursed so I'll be stuck with about 2000$ for the two.. we'll see)


Multiple potential loopbacks on this.. should be fun.. also I'll likely have an equilizer kicking around on something.. but I'm not sure what yet.... dependson what I'm doing.

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my old stuff, not quite up to snuff - but I still dig it - UPDATED 9/23/2012

why not look into SonicWall offerings? cheaper then Cisco and will do what you want without the headache of configuring Cisco shit.

you can also deploy wireless AP's from the main sonicwall router easily and manage them from there.

sonicwalls support ratio based, failover, or spillover load balancing.

you could also look at an acutal dedicated wan load balancer device ($$$$$$$) + your cisco so

wan links -> balancer -> your router -> network

that netgear you linked will hold you back, toss it.

just get a sonicwall and then manually set up each of those netgear ap's yourself manually. you'll be able to configure them / they'll probably support old clients (b & g) plug the AP's into your sonic wall network and configure them all with the same ssid channel but put them individually on different IPs.

plug a cable into them from your lan switches and doneski. use portforwarding on sonicwall.

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Originally posted by shaw I need some help with equipment selection. I have the following sitting around: 1x Netgear WNDR3700 4x Netgear WN802T Modems are a standard Comcast Arris, and that enormous U-Verse saucer. The end game here is to set one up as a failover. Onto the network... -Very basic wireless use. All regular users have N-based devices, but I need G as a back-up in some areas, for guests, etc. -Additional switches will handle all intranet traffic, but I do have ports forwarded to some of those devices. -APs can be hardwired. POE is handy, but not necessary. Obviously, I'll need some sort of 2-WAN router (19" rack-mounted much preferred). Can I use that Netgear behind a boring, wired one, instead of buying some sort of hub for the APs? If so, can I use those access points in addition to a couple G-based ones? Last, any major input on the router? I'd prefer to stick with Netgear or Cisco, just because I'm used to them.

I've never been too big into networking, but everyone I work with swears by Cisco. Netgear is fine for personal use; that's what I have at home, but Cisco I think would be a safer bet for a more robust network that it seems like you're trying to set up.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

as you know I am a noob at networking

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Originally posted by EddieZilker

should have seen that coming.

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i have 2 48 port switches which i dont' use in my basement.

COOOOOOL

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Originally posted by r5a why not look into SonicWall offerings? cheaper then Cisco and will do what you want without the headache of configuring Cisco shit. you can also deploy wireless AP's from the main sonicwall router easily and manage them from there. sonicwalls support ratio based, failover, or spillover load balancing. you could also look at an acutal dedicated wan load balancer device ($$$$$$$) + your cisco so wan links -> balancer -> your router -> network

I don't know anything about them, and I don't like new stuff, especially when it's relatively utilitarian. The Netgear is what I've been using lately, since they've been making, by far, the most reliable of the consumer ones I've used in the past two years. I've used a few Cisco POE switches, and while they are, indeed, a giant headache, I figured them out and don't want to have to do so again with a new line.

To clarify: this is for a single-family home. There might be 3 users* at a time. The failover is just because the owner is willing to pay to not have to worry if something goes down--not because a company is relying on this to function. I just don't know a ton about more complex wap setups (the reception may be an issue, hence the use of N, despite the resulting complication), or about 2-WAN routers. It's not my money, so it's not too critical, but something in the $200-$400 range is what I am probably after (not going to send him a bill for "$$$$$$$," whatever that equates to.

edit: 3 users on this stuff. All the port forwarding and heavy traffic stuff is on two 16-port switches, and one 24-port POE switch, already.

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Last edited by shaw on May-02-2011 at 04:51

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