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JohnSmith
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops
Exclamation Internet Explorer Users, SSL is NOT secure

Oh shit, I just found out today that SSL has been hacked. Basically, if you are connected to an SSL site (when you see the little lock in the status bar), and you think that everything is secure, it's really not. someone can intercept that data, your credit cards and personal information can be logged to a file by anyone out there!

Versions 5.0, 5.5 are vulnerable. version 6 has SORT OF patched this, but can still be vulnerable in certain cicumstances.

here is a link to the article in the register.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26620.html

I also have a link to how to actually exploit this, but i'm not posting it.

fuck, guess i'm not buying anything on the web for a while.

Old Post Aug-12-2002 18:23  Canada
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ali92
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Fishtown, Philadelphia
Re: Internet Explorer Users, SSL is NOT secure

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Oh shit, I just found out today that SSL has been hacked. Basically, if you are connected to an SSL site (when you see the little lock in the status bar), and you think that everything is secure, it's really not. someone can intercept that data, your credit cards and personal information can be logged to a file by anyone out there!

Versions 5.0, 5.5 are vulnerable. version 6 has SORT OF patched this, but can still be vulnerable in certain cicumstances.

here is a link to the article in the register.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26620.html

I also have a link to how to actually exploit this, but i'm not posting it.

fuck, guess i'm not buying anything on the web for a while.

Is this the same for Mozilla browser? I stopped using IE6 a month ago.

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Nook
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Rotterdam

i don't think anything is secure, so this doesn't suprises me anymore.


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Clyde77
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Guam

is there an alternative for IE? i mean like the best one that a hacker cant get in to. thanks for letting us know by the way.



clyde


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Nook
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Rotterdam

opera is pretty good, don't know if it's hackfree tho.


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JohnSmith
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops
Re: Re: Internet Explorer Users, SSL is NOT secure

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Originally posted by ali92

Is this the same for Mozilla browser? I stopped using IE6 a month ago.


in the link i posted it says:

Mozilla was not vulnerable, but I'm not sure if that's because it handled the situation properly, or is, ironically, somehow too buggy to be exploited.

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smh
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What if you have a firewall ?


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Nook
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Registered: May 2001
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well, it's working via your browser, and your browser is allowed to connect from your computer and vice versa, so i don't think it helps. at least. that's what i think.


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igottaknow
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: The Future

this type of thing is over blown IMHO. I've bought plenty over the net without a problem. Its more likely and easier to go tru a business's garbage and steal credit card numbers from receipt carbons than be smart enough to hack into a SSL server. btw, ppl die in car recks every day, but im still am goin to drive.


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smh
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Well lets hope someone wernt taking a peek @ my IE last nite cuz i bought a few things


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JohnSmith
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops

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Originally posted by igottaknow
this type of thing is over blown IMHO. I've bought plenty over the net without a problem. Its more likely and easier to go tru a business's garbage and steal credit card numbers from receipt carbons than be smart enough to hack into a SSL server. btw, ppl die in car recks every day, but im still am goin to drive.


well, that's true. it's all a matter of calculated risk. For example, i calculate the risk of driving a car to my health, to be low enough to make up for the benefits.

and, i have always known there is some amount of risk with putting your CC numbers over the net. but i have purchased anyway, because it's so convenient and easy to get stuff this way.

however, this brings new circumstances into play. it is very easy to get hacked like this, anyone with linux, and an SSL certificate can intercept any amount of data they want from any server.

imagine they did this to paypal? the consequences could be huge. this is not overblown.

but, keeping buying online if you want to, that is your right.

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igottaknow
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Registered: Feb 2001
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didnt mean to dismiss your concern as nothing. i agree u need to balance your risk/reward ratio.


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