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ne1seenmykeys
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Nashville, TN U.S.A.
What would your definition of a "warped" record be?

OK, so I ordered MORPH - Maximum Overdrive (Original 3rd and Benicio Remix) from Juno the other day, got it today along with 4 or 5 more records, and it's the only one that doesn't seem to be in 100% great shape. My question is this........

How warped does a record have to be exactly to be considered offically warped??? I mean, when I sit it on my slipmat and I look at it from an angle even with the slipmat, I can see it coming off the slipmat MAYBE a millimeter as it goes around, which doesn't seem to be too bad to me. Should i send it back to them? How much is too much? Should I expect every single record to be perfectly straight?

Most importantly, if I take care of this record from here on out, is the performance going to be altered from it's present state? Basically, would you send it back?


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mantisnl
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: holland

i have a lot of slightly warped records.. don`t worry about it, u can`t expect all vinyls 2 be straight...


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Dj Thy
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Belgium, Earth

As long as it doesn't make the needle jump by itself or as soon as you touch the record it's allright.

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Arty
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Edinburgh, UK

I think 1mm is being a bit on the fussy side. My copy of Tact 2 - Sweet Dreams is actually pyramidal, and doesn't touch the platter except right round the edges (or right in the middle, depending which way up it is).

I've heard that if you stick a record between two flat objects such as books and put it by a radiator then it will bend back into shape, but I've never tried it and won't be help responsible for anything that melts

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bachatu
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Registered: May 2001
Location: South Florida

most important things about warped records:
1. Make sure the needle doesnt skip (like DJ Thy mentioned)
I actually got a record so warped that my needle would hop. I callec abovethesky, they sent out another no problems
2. Make sure u are able to beat match it. Some records can be so warped or messed up that they change pitch as u play them because of the wabble, making them very difficult, sometimes impossible to beat match

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whippa
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Canberra, AUS

Gang here is another way to "un-warp" your precious vinyls....
Go and get urselves 2 sheets of glass big enough to cover the vinyl and about 3mm thick and your girlies (or your) hair dryer then place the vinyl between the two bits of glass and turn the hair dryer on and move it over the "vinyl sandwitch" in a circular type motiion for a couple of minutes then wait till it all cools down. Hey presto on flat vinyl hot of the press.

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Dj Thy
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Belgium, Earth

I never understood all the troubles you guys went through to flatten a record. Just grab it and bend it with your hands. I'm really not joking here. It really takes an amount of force before a vinyl record breaks. It takes two seconds to flatten it that way. With the glass sheets you gotta wait some time, and if by any (mal)chance it was too hot, your grooves will be hurt as well.

And bachatu, normally a warped record like we understand it won't really affect the pitch. That's the case when the record has been pressed off center.

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Luke Terry
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Registered: Oct 2001
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unless it affects the tune, ie, if it speeds up and slows down within 1 rotation, skips, etc don't worry. imo the best way to flatten a record is just to jam it in a middle of a full record box, then it doesn't hurt them in anyway, but if any tune is badly warped, take it back


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JohnSmith
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Registered: Apr 2002
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Originally posted by Dj Thy
I never understood all the troubles you guys went through to flatten a record. Just grab it and bend it with your hands. I'm really not joking here. It really takes an amount of force before a vinyl record breaks. It takes two seconds to flatten it that way. With the glass sheets you gotta wait some time, and if by any (mal)chance it was too hot, your grooves will be hurt as well.


I have a super warped record, like about 1 cm off the platter at it's highest.

Yeah, i've tried the bend it method, it didn't work. i also tried stuffing it in a full record box, and putting under something heavy, (my speaker) and that didn't work either.

i think i will try the glass sheet method now.

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Dj Thy
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Belgium, Earth

Depends how much you bend it he. I usually bend it pretty far (let's say the record forms an angle of about 60°), then I spin the record a bit and bend it again (so I make sure I bend the record on all it's circumference). I have yet to break a record, and it has always worked for me.

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mantisnl
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: holland

i`ve tried this, but i`m waaaay 2 affraid that i break one of my (precious) vinyls


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Arty
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Edinburgh, UK

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Originally posted by Project T
unless it affects the tune, ie, if it speeds up and slows down within 1 rotation, skips, etc don't worry. imo the best way to flatten a record is just to jam it in a middle of a full record box, then it doesn't hurt them in anyway, but if any tune is badly warped, take it back


It won't be warped so that it speeds up and slows down, because there are never going to be anything other than 360 degrees in a circle, and the individual grooves aren't going to move in relation to each other. So, records bending up and down, as they do, won't do anything to change the speed, as you still go 360 degrees in the same amount of time, and the parts of the record are still in the same place as far as the needle is concerned.

Sticking a record in a box doesn't work either, as you need to heat it up in some way (bending it a lot will also do this), or it's set firm.

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