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Seriously what is the difference between faders on the mixer and regular volume knobs

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Kysora
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Regular volume knobs control the volume of the channel before it goes through the mixer and whatever effects are assigned to it. The mixer fader controls the output level after those effects are applied.

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Regular volume knobs control the volume of the channel before it goes through the mixer and whatever effects are assigned to it. The mixer fader controls the output level after those effects are applied.


So is that really much of a difference to the trained ear?

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I don't think it really matters. I've done both at the same time and it makes no difference.

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I like to set all my faders to 0, then adjust each sound source's volume until a typical note averages it's peaks at 0db on the meter. You'll find your mix easier to think about if you can set every channel entering your mixer at the same level.


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Constantin
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Do you refer to the knobs from the channels or from the mixer ?


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Stu Cox
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It's all a matter of the signal path. The knob next to a sound in the step sequencer is the volume of the sound at the start of its 'life'... it then works its way through to whichever mixer channel it's assigned to, goes through whatever effects are on that channel, and then is attenuated according to the fader.

If you assign multiple sounds to the same mixer channel, the fader will attenuate all of these sounds together (but the balance between them could still be controlled by their volume knobs in the step sequencer).

So which one you want to change if you want to make something louder/quieter essentially depends on how your sounds are arranged: do you have a separate mixer channel for every sound, or are some sounds share channels?


If every sound has its own mixer channel and you're only using linear effects (e.g. EQ, delay, reverb), it may not matter which one you use to control a sound's volume.

However, if you have non-linear effects (e.g. compression, noise generation) on a channel, there may be a noticeable difference between changing the volume at source (the sound's volume knob) and changing the volume on the mixer post-effects. Which one you change depends on why you're changing the volume, what effect you want to achieve, etc.


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skyhunter
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We answered this last time, you didn't understand for some reason.

If you have a mixer with NO EFFECTS, they are the same.

You can route multiple sounds to one mixer channel and control the volume on each using knobs. I do that.

But honestly, you could've figured it out after all those answers and some experimentation.


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Dunno

I know the channel faders are at dBFS. The rotaries could be something different.....? If they are then there will be a small difference in amplitude levels/changes with each step in the 0-127 range.

Pretty sure they're the same but you might wanna check up on that.

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read up on gainstaging

its essential to have a trim on the first insert of every plug to make sure your not overloading the other plugins.


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