It's not bad if this is just your second trance track, but it needs lots of work. Firstly, ditch those preset sounds! They're incredibly cheesy and tired out. You haven't EQ'd at all, and your mix is incredibly overloaded. I know there's a lot going on in there, but I am unable to decipher between sounds. It's very important to strive for a clean sound, it will take your track a very, very long way. I can tell you have a lot of good ideas in here, but I'm just put off by your sounds.

I really like your melody, and generally the whole idea of the song. My advice to you is to put this track to the side since you feel like there's not much you can do with it anymore. Give your mind a break from it, and just sit and experiment with sound design. No presets, start from scratch. Just play with sounds that you come up with yourself. If you're not too sure about your way around your VSTs, there's always tutorials on YouTube or other places around the internet. Basic synthesis and sound sculpture is universal, so learn on one instrument, and you can carry it with you for all instruments. Once you learn the basics, it's all experimenting from there. Before you know it, you will be making tracks with nothing but your own sounds and own, unique style which will make you stand out a lot more from the amateur side.

Keep working at it, you have great potential.

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First of all, I agree with what Jemuel said. The track has it's flaws but that's not what's important at all, everyones first tracks sounded like this. The important part is that you understand the formatting, and are able to simply make a track in a way that's acceptable, the other areas simply take practice, and I'm mostly talking about the overall sound, or how busy it is. When you master that areas, you will be making killer tracks in no time.

The track has a nice idea in it, the energy is good, you threw a lot of ideas in from the start, which is good, it shows you have great potential for the future, but in my opinion you should bring in elements slower, let the elements settle in, then start adding another, and then another. But don't put too much in at one time, because it can be confusing for the listener, let the elements play with each other harmonically.

You have to work on making sure sounds don't blend too much.

For instance, cut out the lowest frequencies from the leads, pads, etc. so the kick and the bassline have the area to breathe in.

EQ the sounds to remove those frequencies that are unnecessary in any given instruments/sounds(for example, get rid of the lower ends in hi hats, claps, etc, EQ your kick in a way that you remove the higher frequencies, but be careful that it doesn't lose it's punch so it becomes muddy. For the kicks you will need to keep the frequencies at around 5khz. Just play with the EQ and see what works for you. Also, don't worry if your sample/instrument sounds bad when while you preview it, just make sure it sounds nice in the track, while it's playing with other sounds.)

About the sounds, definitely don't use the cliche' sounds much, it's ok in small quantities, but otherwise they are really making the listener tired. This can be achieved by simply getting some new patches/soundbanks for your vsti until you master the synthesis. Even the free ones can contain really good sounds.

Get some good kick drum samples, don't just use the Vengeance club/trance samples all the time, there are great sounds in other sound banks made for other electronic genres.


Sorry for a long post, it's only because I believe you can achieve something.


Keep it up, and happy holidays!

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Big THX for taking your time to listen to it & for writing your opinion! I promise to keep in mind these advices...

so... about the vst's... that's what I'm doing right now... I'm reading user manuals about the vst's to understand how they work, which knob which role has, the ASDR thing etc.etc... but I think it will take me years to understand properly at least one vst, or maybe I'll never be able to make from INIT preset my own sounds, or maybe that's how I see things for now
at this moment I know only how to modify the preset sounds, just a little...
back in the days, when I saw the first video tutorial with a trance track (with fl studio view) I never thought I'll be able to make even a simple beat...

big thx again

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Pretty good for a second track. I like how you've kept it reasonably simple rather than just chucking heaps of sounds in at once and hoping for the best like I used to do in my beginner days.

As far as making your own sounds goes, for the moment, I wouldn't worry too much about working from an init preset, I would find some basic sounds and just change them a bit. Over time you will learn by yourself what does what, and then hopefully you'll be able to get any sound you want after a while.

In terms of song structure, I think the bassline, build-up, drop and outro should be more deffined. It was hard for me to notice when the song was changing between those points so it mostly seemed like one big clump of music, (but good music though).

What I liked about it was how you kept it simple but effective. There weren't too many loud, full cutoff sounds all going at once, and I didnt notice any mudiness either.

So, for a beginner, and for your second ever song, I must say you've done a pretty good job, so stick at it!!!

Btw, If you want I can send you an flp of a song I am currently working on to show you the basics of a bassline, build-up, drop and outro. Send me a PM if you want the link.

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but if its your 2nd track.. you are on the right tracks

for making music .. there is no secrets , the only thing that its important, its to practice , and practice, and practice.

your track sounds good, keep up

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You used the 3xOsc and Sytrus presets of Norland, did you? That's okay, but mind that it are his signature sounds. If you create your own sounds, you will develop your own style. A lot of artists are lacking own style and copy a lot of sounds from other people, so I hope you develop your own

Generally, it needs more work. It sounds too cheesy for me. I agree with Jamuel.

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Originally posted by Skyler_Music You used the 3xOsc and Sytrus presets of Norland, did you? That's okay, but mind that it are his signature sounds. If you create your own sounds, you will develop your own style. A lot of artists are lacking own style and copy a lot of sounds from other people, so I hope you develop your own Generally, it needs more work. It sounds too cheesy for me. I agree with Jamuel.

))))) nope. I used sounds from vanguard, sylenth1, z3ta, albino3 (third-party plug-ins); I never used 3xosc or sytrus. And as I said earlier, I'll try to "learn" about makin' sounds, but maybe it will take me a very long time to be able to...
anyway, thx for writing your opinion...

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Originally posted by mishu.edm ))))) nope. I used sounds from vanguard, sylenth1, z3ta, albino3 (third-party plug-ins); I never used 3xosc or sytrus. And as I said earlier, I'll try to "learn" about makin' sounds, but maybe it will take me a very long time to be able to... anyway, thx for writing your opinion...

Oh, did you made them by yourself? Haha, they sounded very familiar to this little pack here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh_v...nel_video_title

Especially the sounds at 0:23

But if you made them by yourself, way to go, man!
As long you keep practicing you'll get there sooner than you think

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Originally posted by Skyler_Music Oh, did you made them by yourself? Haha, they sounded very familiar to this little pack here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh_v...nel_video_title Especially the sounds at 0:23 But if you made them by yourself, way to go, man! As long you keep practicing you'll get there sooner than you think

lol, no...

I wanted to say: I used preset sounds from vst's that I mentioned earlier(I modified 3 or 4 of presets just a bit(on cutoff, ASDR, arpegiator, EQ)... and I wanted to say that the sounds of my track don't come from built-in fl studio plug-ins.

btw I just watched that video... I didn't know that 3xosc is a good one, it can really make lots of sounds but I still prefer the really good third-party vst's

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Originally posted by mishu.edm lol, no... I wanted to say: I used preset sounds from vst's that I mentioned earlier(I modified 3 or 4 of presets just a bit(on cutoff, ASDR, arpegiator, EQ)... and I wanted to say that the sounds of my track don't come from built-in fl studio plug-ins. btw I just watched that video... I didn't know that 3xosc is a good one, it can really make lots of sounds but I still prefer the really good third-party vst's

Whoops, seems I misread something :/ Fayul.

And 3xOsc is really handy. As long you can create a basic synth and know which FX have to be combined with the synth to create a specific sound, it could be all you need to create a monster lead

And if you're a fan of 3rd party VSTs, check out Sylenth1. Also a really cool VST and I use it a lot.

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