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madmuso
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Registered: Nov 2009
Location: Melbourne
Mix engineers for electronic music

Hey guys,

It seems common in the electronic music world for a lot of artists ( amateur and pro's) to mix their own material. Been wondering, are there guys that just mix other people's electronic music for a living? I'm curious because in the rock industry it is quite common for bands/artists to record their own material themselves, then send it off to somebody to have it mixed, then mastered. This is common across the board from ameuters to pro's. do many pro electronic artists get their stuff mixed by someone else?

Thanks,

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Andy28
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I believe its more common than I thought, especially with the bigger labels. If someone else can get an extra 20% out of your track that you have spent hours and hours on then why not? Some people just have a talent for that sort of thing that no matter how hard you try, you won't achieve their level.

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cryophonik
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Re: Mix engineers for electronic music

I think it's most common for most hobbyists/bedroom producers to mix it themselves, especially with electronic music. It's probably more common at the pro/semi-pro level to have someone else mix electronica tracks.

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I'm curious because in the rock industry it is quite common for bands/artists to record their own material themselves, then send it off to somebody to have it mixed, then mastered. This is common across the board from ameuters to pro's. do many pro electronic artists get their stuff mixed by someone else?

Thanks,


While we're on the subject, we're in the process of finding the right mix engineer for our upcoming Covalente album. I normally mix everything myself, but since this is going to be released as a CD and downloadable album, we want to make sure that it's done right. Half the reason is for having another experienced set of ears to assist me with mixing it, the other half is to have it mixed in a dedicated mixing environment, rather than my home studio. The songs on the album are a pretty eclectic mix and mostly electronica-based, but there are a lot of acoustic instruments, electric guitar and bass, and a shit ton of vocal tracks, and it crosses over many genres/styles. But, even if we were doing a pure EDM/electronica album, I'd still probably want it mixed in a pro studio, with pro gear, and assistance from a pro mixing engineer.


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aquila
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Neil Mclellan frequently mixes The Prodigy's work, and does a good job of it too.


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DJ RANN
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quote:
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Neil Mclellan frequently mixes The Prodigy's work, and does a good job of it too.


Not to mention he mixed Expander for Sasha.

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madmuso
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So, just like rock albums, do big name electronic artists always have a list somewhere on the sleeve describing who did what or is it for some reason hidden at times? Reason I'm asking that is because I've been trying to find out who mixed lay me down avici but can't find details on that anywhere, I'm tipping it was mixed by a well known pro because the song features Adam lambert, then again I could be wrong, who knows.

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madmuso
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Re: Re: Mix engineers for electronic music

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Originally posted by cryophonik
I think it's most common for most hobbyists/bedroom producers to mix it themselves, especially with electronic music. It's probably more common at the pro/semi-pro level to have someone else mix electronica tracks.



While we're on the subject, we're in the process of finding the right mix engineer for our upcoming Covalente album. I normally mix everything myself, but since this is going to be released as a CD and downloadable album, we want to make sure that it's done right. Half the reason is for having another experienced set of ears to assist me with mixing it, the other half is to have it mixed in a dedicated mixing environment, rather than my home studio. The songs on the album are a pretty eclectic mix and mostly electronica-based, but there are a lot of acoustic instruments, electric guitar and bass, and a shit ton of vocal tracks, and it crosses over many genres/styles. But, even if we were doing a pure EDM/electronica album, I'd still probably want it mixed in a pro studio, with pro gear, and assistance from a pro mixing engineer.


I think sometimes getting someone to mx your stuff after you've heard it a million times is a smart move, I used to record a lot of my old bands music but we always had someone else mix it and master it. If you can find a guy who understands the vision of what you're trying to achieve, things should go well.

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Raphie
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I do quite a lot of stem mastering / mixing
Not involved creative though, just pure the engineering of putting it together. Could be 4 stems or 30 odd tracks, as long as they are full length, i line them up and mix them.


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cryophonik
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Re: Re: Re: Mix engineers for electronic music

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If you can find a guy who understands the vision of what you're trying to achieve, things should go well.


Yeah, that's been the challenge. Especially, where we live - it's all classic rockers and blues, so that's what most of the pro studio guys around here are familiar with. Trying to find an engineer who is remotely familiar with our style has been futile - the "pro" guys aren't into this style and the few guys who I've found who are experienced with style are less experienced than I am or just flat-out amateur. I insist on being part of the mixing process, so it has to be someone local. I may have to expand my search to the San Francisco/Bay Area. I don't mind sending it off to a mastering house after it's mixed, though.


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Richard Butler
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I guess you are much like many of us here, a bit of a control freak and might well end up feeling prickly with some dude pissing all over your musical treasure with you tryin to remain all polite n shit.

Mind you I can see the value in a pair of pro ears and 2 heads can be better than one.


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cryophonik
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I guess you are much like many of us here, a total batshit crazy, get the fuck out of my way, don't touch that or I'll strangle your puppy control freak...


Fixed.


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tehlord
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I would gladly pass over mixing duties to somebody else.

It's such a dreary process fuelled by science and numbers. Hate it.


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