hey how ya guys doing this is a question ive wanted to know for ages i wonder why it hasn't been adressed here but anyway here goes :P ok originally back in the day remember how we all used to trust the delightfull winamp and go 128! thats near cd quality! phwaor! but later on i dunno people found out really more like cd quality was more around th 192 range (hence why everything is encoded at that now) but my question is how exactly does all the bitrates work... like if you have a 192 kbit mp3 (say thats a clean recording...) is that equivalant to maybe the purchased copy on a official cd? or whats the deal like that when you de-encode from the mp3 to make music cds does that loose quality? or is 192 pretty much up there... could someone please explain all of this

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lower than 128 - stay away, unless sampling or something.

128 - alright quality; most people can listen to music like this no problem (I personally dont enjoy it, but meh, thats the price you pay for some free music )

192 and above - This is about as close as you'll get to cd quality. With nearly 99% of people, their ears cant tell the difference(especially at 320), and you'd have to be pretty picky if you thought otherwise..

If you listen to and burn a cd full of 192 mp3's, it wont "lose" any more quality, and will sound almost as a good as a cd - unless the cd is decoded in dolby digital or dts )

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yep

The more you squise the stuff together, the more loss of quality you get!

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MP3 WILL NEVER reach the quality of a CD
Simple as that...

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Originally posted by TranceSeeker MP3 WILL NEVER reach the quality of a CD Simple as that...

yup...even 192kbs u can tell the difference between mp3 & cd...128 is abysmal ...trying to get rid of all my 128 mp3s, and get 192 or vbr ones

...haven't tried 320...but file size isn't too convenient, so doesn't really matter for me, but ya for most people i guess 192 is good 'nuff

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ANYTHING below 256 encoded with LAME and I can hear the difference in a 6.1-channel system. In a standard 2-channel system with the "virtual surround" feature (it emulates that u have 4 speakers with 2 speakers. Basically, it adds what would be in the rear channels to the front channels), I can't tell between 192 (LAME) and the original. With a portable audio device, I can't tell between 128 (LAME ONLY!) or 160 (Fraunhoffer) and the original. It's mainly in the REAR channels. That's why I ALWAYS encode at 320 kbps with the latest LAME encoder. There you go! I broke it all down for you!

It does depend a LOT on the source, but I try to avoid anything less than 192kbps. Anything above that I see as excessive, and I agree with Fraggle and Tranceseeker saying MP3s cannot match the quality of CDs.

this site has a lot of info:
http://www.r3mix.net/

since we are on the subject...

why does it seem like you lose volume when you burn mp3s. also i've noticed that when using software like traktor that when you change it into mp3 or wav that you lose volume and it has to be amplified?

well my ears might be bad, but i hardly hear differences between 128 and 192. although i say 128 is best for car and cd portables etc, while 192 is best for pc, where space doesn´t matter

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Originally posted by maroon22 this site has a lot of info: http://www.r3mix.net/

That's where I got ALL of my info from!!!
And yes Mart, the KEY to having a good recording (and a good reproduction thereafter) is having a good SOURCE!

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Originally posted by ali92 That's where I got ALL of my info from!!!

that seems like a good site, im reading through most of the stuff atm.

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