What are you guy's thoughts on this recent surge in tracks with a generally raw/minimal aesthetic, retro hand claps & percussion, generally slow and lazy sounding, maybe some acid stabs?

I see people charting this stuff like crazy and I dont see the appeal. Its not even remotely catchy. In fact, the records that seem the most popular are the ones that sound the most amateur and unfinished.

Generally I'm speaking of Firecracker, Unthank, Vakula, Rush Hour, Kyle Hall type material. I get exausted sifting through this sound week after week. I dont think it has any lasting power whatsoever and it blows my mind that everyone wants to buy and play it for an audience.

Can someone who thinks that this is good music explain the context that this music would have appeal besides easy listening at home with a couple of friends?

The only guy that I can think of that is doing this sound well is Andres Dez and that's because he puts a ton of funk and soul into his productions. That guy is pure talent and he rarely misses. Love his music but I'm struggling to come up with other producer names in this genre that I can get down with on any type of consistent basis.

Examples of music in this category:

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF461421-01-01-02.mp3

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF462230-01-02-01.mp3

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF457189-01-01-01.mp3

Help me understand what is happening here. I'm trying to keep an open mind.

I wouldn't include Firecracker and Vakula on that list.

I think you're referring to more edgy and upfront sounding stuff like this

http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/458696-01.htm?highlight=JARED%20WILSON

http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/462149-01.htm?highlight=SAMAAN

http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/424127-01.htm?highlight=SNUFF%20CREW

I own the last one tho and it's fucking bomb

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

Last edited by Adam420 on Aug-28-2012 at 16:17

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Originally posted by Adam420 I wouldn't include Firecracker and Vakula on that list. I think you're referring to more edgy and upfront sounding stuff like this http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products...=JARED%20WILSON http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products...ighlight=SAMAAN http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products...ht=SNUFF%20CREW I own the last one tho and it's fucking bomb

Yes that's exactly what I'm talking about. I like the Jared Wilson record though. It hits hard.

Here's another example of some really cliched sound in 2012. This entire EP sounds like a parody of itself:

http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products...ighlight=CHIWAX

What track on the Snuff Crew do you like? I take it from the label this is meant for dancers lurking in the sideroom/basement? The handclaps just seem so over the top. The overall sound does not make me want to dance.

And to be honest it's like the one drum machine workout in my collection and it will probably stay that way so I'm fine with it

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

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Originally posted by Guest What are you guy's thoughts on this recent surge in tracks with a generally raw/minimal aesthetic, retro hand claps & percussion, generally slow and lazy sounding, maybe some acid stabs? I see people charting this stuff like crazy and I dont see the appeal. Its not even remotely catchy. In fact, the records that seem the most popular are the ones that sound the most amateur and unfinished. Generally I'm speaking of Firecracker, Unthank, Vakula, Rush Hour, Kyle Hall type material. I get exausted sifting through this sound week after week. I dont think it has any lasting power whatsoever and it blows my mind that everyone wants to buy and play it for an audience. Can someone who thinks that this is good music explain the context that this music would have appeal besides easy listening at home with a couple of friends? The only guy that I can think of that is doing this sound well is Andres Dez and that's because he puts a ton of funk and soul into his productions. That guy is pure talent and he rarely misses. Love his music but I'm struggling to come up with other producer names in this genre that I can get down with on any type of consistent basis. Examples of music in this category: http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF461421-01-01-02.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF462230-01-02-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF457189-01-01-01.mp3 Help me understand what is happening here. I'm trying to keep an open mind.

The stuttery 909 claps are a throwback to the days of early Chicago house, of course. I like that last song quite a bit, reminds me a tad of Lone's productions. The Minsk stuff posted below isn't too bad either, even if every single song sounds almost identical. First 2 songs you posted (the Kyle Hall song) are blah.

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Originally posted by Guest Here's another example of some really cliched sound in 2012. This entire EP sounds like a parody of itself: http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products...ighlight=CHIWAX

lol!

It sounds like they just let a drum machine and two synths scroll between a few patterns with all the same sounds and recorded at arbitrary points.

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Originally posted by Guest Generally I'm speaking of Firecracker, Unthank, Vakula and Kyle Hall type material

I wouldn't call any of these "modern drum maschine house". I actually think the Firecracker camp has been putting out some of the most advanced House in the past few years.

But yeah, there is an awful amount of retro Chicago style House out there. Like that Chiwax EP you posted, they sound like they've been made in 1989 and I don't mean that in a good way. They often end up just sounding plain lazy, like the artists turned on their 808/909 and two synths and noodled for few minutes and then went straight to the pressing plant. Back then that was acceptable, because no one knew how to do it better, but it's 2012 for god's sake.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.