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DJHiKe
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Registered: May 2011
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Confused Mixing Multiple Tracks with Hot Cues Rekordbox/CDJs

Happy New Year Everyone!



I figured for new year I try something new and break away from my typical mixing style. I wanted to make a mix with multiple tracks but wasn't sure on a few things. I don't really want to do a mega mix with 100 tracks or anything but wished to include more then the usual 20 tracks in a 2 hour set.


Ok. So I know how to use Rekordbox and I know how to set Hot Cues. The only issue I am having is timing my Hot Cue jumps during a set to make it sound good. Not sure if I am setting the at the right locations? For example I use a point for Intro, right before build up and outro. Is this correct 3 Hot cues per track rule?


I know Armin uses Hot Cues or else he wouldn't be able to fit 20-30 tracks either in ASOT. But, at the moment I can't compare mine to his as his sounds flawless but mine when I jump from hot cue 1 intro few minutes in to lets say at break down/build up section I can notice the tempo change and that slight little differential.


Anyone who is really good at this please give me some insight on this.


Thank you in advance.

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DJHiKe
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Found some really good info


ASOT 591 Time Stamps which show exactly how long each track was played

http://cuenation.com/?page=tracklis..._2012-12-13.cue

Also an older clip of Armin explaining method of Hot Cue mixing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VS0GlXa-DI


Please add your reply if you have more info

Cheers.

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I think your tracks have to be quantized for it to work like that


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DJHiKe
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam420
I think your tracks have to be quantized for it to work like that



They are quantized. But, you still hear the changes when jumping from one part to the next. I dont know maybe I'm not setting them at the right places? Also it's still a mystery how Armin mixes ASOT shows without going crazy pressing HOT CUE buttons. I mean you have to time your jumps right on beat or else like I said you hear the change.

At this point I am beginning to think he just edits the tracks and then mixes them but some people swear he uses hot cue points.

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Re: Mixing Multiple Tracks with Hot Cues Rekordbox/CDJs

quote:
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For example I use a point for Intro, right before build up and outro. Is this correct 3 Hot cues per track rule?



nope


quote:
I know Armin uses Hot Cues or else he wouldn't be able to fit 20-30 tracks either in ASOT.


those are not mixed live

quote:


But, at the moment I can't compare mine to his as his sounds flawless but mine when I jump from hot cue 1 intro few minutes in to lets say at break down/build up section I can notice the tempo change and that slight little differential.
Anyone who is really good at this please give me some insight on this.
Thank you in advance.



warp your tracks in ableton. As adam said, you can rely on the quantizing function. I personally think the ability to hit a button in time so fucking rudimentary that the quantizing feature will usually cause more headaches than just using your ear. Worst case , you have to adjust the phase ever so slightly.


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DJHiKe
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Re: Re: Mixing Multiple Tracks with Hot Cues Rekordbox/CDJs

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nope




those are not mixed live



warp your tracks in ableton. As adam said, you can rely on the quantizing function. I personally think the ability to hit a button in time so fucking rudimentary that the quantizing feature will usually cause more headaches than just using your ear. Worst case , you have to adjust the phase ever so slightly.




I use to think that ASOT was not live either until he did the ASOT 600 episode where it was broadcasted live on Youtube feed. He was clearly mixing live with CDJs. But, who knows maybe it was premixed. Just knowing Armin I doubt he would pull a Guetta move and do something like that.

I know Abelton is the way to go just thought he had some sort of preparation technique to make it look that simple.

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the problem is that performance royalties work on a credit system which will have different rates for different time range for most countries and it would make absolutely no sense to not record the mix prior having a cue sheet knowing exactly what is going to be on there. There is too much at stake that you would have to be completely retarded to wing it even if you could do it the same or better 50% of the time. What armin lacks in talent, he makes up in business skill.


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