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Richard Butler
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The guys who helped start it all - live in London

Thought this might be of interest. Kraftwerk in concert at one of Londons trendy art galleries last week.

Love it!



This one here at 1 minute+ has one of the best synth rifts of all time IMO;






















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Richard Butler
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Some hated this one but it sounds damned great live - check this especially around 1.50 - what a sound!



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Looney4Clooney
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so fucking lame dude.

I mean what ever props they get , it isn't for their live bullshit.

as far as the best , riff, i mean listen to stevie wonder, herbie hancock,Bernie Worrell and the guys in pfunk.


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Richard Butler
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Kraftwerk was often used by young black dancers on London pavements back in the day. Never once did they use Stevie Wonder and only occasionaly Hancock as they just sounded kinda soft and uncool without a dance beat unless you are an old white guy at a wedding.

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Looney4Clooney
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right, '


cause rap didn't sample any of those guys....


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The Man Machine Machine Machine Machine Machine Machine Machine Machine Machine Machiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine...

one of my favs of theirs

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Afrikaaa Bambataa and all electro spacers sampled kraftwerk, but i guess L4c wasn't around by then. Really L4C you've got no clue how Big kraftwerk was of an influence on electronic music. Everything heard after them has been some reincarnation of what thy did first.


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Without Pierre Schaeffer, you don't get Kraftwerk, i hardly think that qualifies as starting it all. THey were influential but to say they started it is to limit what was started to a very limited scope and understanding.

And they were never big in any way in the US. Naming a rap group that sampled 1 track is hardly what i would call a tidal wave.

It still doesn't change the fact that their live show was completely fucking retarded and awful.


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I dunno, I thought they looked pretty sexy in those little grid lined suits they were wearing

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I thought you had misspelled the thread title, and this was like some big scoop.. "The guys.. who started it all.. Lives in London!"

I like some of their stuff though.. not all, and at specific times.. but if it's old skool elektronika I much rater prefer JMJ. I mean, he usually nailed the bpm pretty well. Kraftwerk songs usually sound like their supposed to be played either faster or slower. But that's part of the birthing of a genre, I guess.

Who I don't like, on the other hand, and who I think has nothing to do with the house/techno-outbranch of true edm, is god damn Depeche Mode.
They were forerunners of the electrogothsynthpop movement, and while the musical end result of that branch was something sounding not too far off from Trance, they evolved similar, but separate. While some of the more hypnotic tracks can remind in inner form of deep trance, the outer form is whack, and it's like the genre was one of the only one who didn't take advantage of what the minimal movement of the mid two thousands brought with it.


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the thing with tracing influences is that people don't tend to mention the immediate past or the present. EDM owes more to musicians like larry graham, nile rodgers and Tony Thompson. Almost all EDM's musical language is derivative of a very small survey of music. They were trying to make disco with machines. People just don't often think of the players behind disco and the innovations they did add despite what most session players would consider awful static repetitive music. Alot of the influences mentioned were influential in giving people ideas like, oh they make music with machines, so will we. But the actual guts of the music has little to do with the krautrock scene. It was disco wannabe machine music.

I guess you would have to be a musician to know these names, their style , and how their style was appropriated by others. I play all three so it is rather obvious when i hear most dance were the ideas come from.


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Tour de france ... is a belter of a track !!!!

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