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Joss Weatherby
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FAO Lira: Is there a term for this in linguistics?

When people repeat two words over and over and over again, it sounds different depending on the order in which you start, at least to me.

One, Two, One, Two, One, Two

vs.

Two, One, Two, One, Two, One

Is there a term to describe why one sounds different from the other, even though if you are saying them at the same cadence it should sound the same once you say either one long enough?

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Lira
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Hmm... not that I know of.

I believe I know what you mean. When someone says "One, two, one, two" is sounds as if they're saying repeatedly "Wuntoo, wuntoo"; when someone says "Two, one, two, one", it sounds like they're saying "Toowon, Toowon", right? This has probably something to do with how you group and interpret sounds (you can't fight it, you do it all the time to understand language... and the whole world, really) and how the phonological loop works.

Phenomenologists are more likely to study this than linguists, I believe.


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i think the technical term is youhavetoomuchfuckentimeonyourhands.


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quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
i think the technical term is youhavetoomuchfuckentimeonyourhands.

BECAUSE TIME IS MONEY AND WE'RE BALLIN'!!!


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Joss Weatherby
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Lira, you should read the japanese in my jenny chop. I replaced that tacky ki (or whatever it is) kanji with something far better.

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Prove the opposite: if you can "group", you should be able to do the inverse, which is "ungroup."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unpacking


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Lira
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By the way, that's not "ki", Nou, that's got loads of different possible readings and "ki" is one, but not the most common. She meant to have it as "sei" (living), though it may also mean "nama" (raw). Damn kanji
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Prove the opposite: if you can "group", you should be able to do the inverse, which is "ungroup."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unpacking

I'm not sure I follow you here: Do you need proof for unpacking or that you can "ungroup" sounds? Because phonology and phonetics is pretty much people doing the latter, and even Wikipedia provides proof for the former


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Interesting Subject.

ME GUSTA!


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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Hmm... not that I know of.

I believe I know what you mean. When someone says "One, two, one, two" is sounds as if they're saying repeatedly "Wuntoo, wuntoo"; when someone says "Two, one, two, one", it sounds like they're saying "Toowon, Toowon", right?


Yep, it's not the same, sounds indeed like two different words.
Easy to check using a wav recorder and do a little cutting and pasting.


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isn't it obvious?


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