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Vida1003
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Hey guys. I've been producing for about 6 months now using FL studio 11 and it's taken me about that long to be confident with my skill in it. My main computer crashed and is done for good so I am saving up to buy a Macbook Pro 15.4 inch. I have been told that Mac computers are much more resilient when it comes to virus's and software malfunctions which is the reason for the switch. I am also aware that Logic Pro is exclusively available for Mac OS, therefore I'm considering making the switch to logic from FL. I read in articles that Armin Van Buuren and some other big names use Logic but I've also read about big names such as Maor Levi and a few other artists I listen to using FL. I'm looking at two things here, 1. Which one can I do more with? and 2. Will it take me another 6 months to reach that same skill level with Logic are they similar enough for my experience and knowledge to carry over? Any thoughts and feedback are much appreciated and I thank you in advance.

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cryophonik
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Re: Thoughts on switching DAW's

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Originally posted by Vida1003
I read in articles that Armin Van Buuren and some other big names use Logic but I've also read about big names such as Maor Levi and a few other artists I listen to using FL.


No offense, but that's a stupid thing to base your DAW decision on. All DAWs have their strengths/weaknesses, so base it on YOUR needs.

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Originally posted by Vida1003
I'm looking at two things here, 1. Which one can I do more with?


The seemingly obvious answer is Logic, since it's probably a deeper DAW overall, but that's not a given. FLS does some things that Logic doesn't (e.g., step sequencer) and vice-versa. Very few people, especially EDM producers need every function that a DAW offers, so your best approach is to compare features and find the one that works for you. Unfortunately, there's no Logic demo, so you basically have to make your decision on paper.

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2. Will it take me another 6 months to reach that same skill level with Logic are they similar enough for my experience and knowledge to carry over?


The time to get over the learning curve will depend on a lot of things (including the fact that you're moving to a Mac/new OS), but yeah, you should probably expect it to be at least a few months before you feel as comfortable in Logic as you do in FLS. Being familiar with a DAW already, you should be at least functional pretty quickly, though. You can really accelerate the process by spending $25 or so on some good online tutorials (e.g., from Groove3, MacProVideo) and devoting a day or so to going through them. BTW, that's also a good way to preview Logic in lieu of a demo.


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Deillon
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Re: Re: Thoughts on switching DAW's

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The seemingly obvious answer is Logic, since it's probably a deeper DAW overall, but that's not a given.

So, what is this based on?
I always thought mostly workflow was different.

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tehlord
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Re: Re: Re: Thoughts on switching DAW's

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So, what is this based on?
I always thought mostly workflow was different.



Logic has stuff like the environment (similar to Cubase logical editor) which is massively powerful.

Saying that, I bet 80% of users never even look at it.

All DAW's are more than capable of doing whatever you need, especially as a novice.

It really is down to differences in workflow.


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cryophonik
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Re: Re: Re: Thoughts on switching DAW's

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So, what is this based on?
I always thought mostly workflow was different.


Workflow is different, yes. But, Logic also has far more features, including entire views like the Environment and Score editor, better hardware/control surface support, etc. But, don't take my word for it, go read the 900-pg Logic Pro X manual, then the 500-pg Logic Pro X Instruments manual, then the 300-pg Effects manual, then the.....you get the point.

As Geoff mentioned, all those features don't make it a "better" DAW if you don't need them. It's also not a "better" DAW if you prefer FLS' workflow.


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Dubturbo DAW man im serious. Armin van buuren and Cryophonik just get paid by logic to sell their shit(4 real scammers).



Anything else is just a waste of time, check out this review. Just buy it.

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Evolution of the electronic music producer:

0-2 years: Raging asshole fanboy of one DAW, which happens to be the only DAW they have ever used.

2-5 years: DAW bouncer, changing every 12-24 months.

5+ years: Every DAW is a piece of shit and I'm just going to stick with the one that makes me hate the universe the least.


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quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Evolution of the electronic music producer:

0-2 years: Raging asshole fanboy of one DAW, which happens to be the only DAW they have ever used.

2-5 years: DAW bouncer, changing every 12-24 months.

5+ years: Every DAW is a piece of shit and I'm just going to stick with the one that makes me hate the universe the least.


beautifully written as its spot on.

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cryophonik
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quote:
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5+ years: Every DAW is a piece of shit and I'm just going to stick with the one that makes me hate the universe the least.


With one exception, the guys who switch to Reaper and spend the rest of their lives trying to convince the world that it's the best DAW ever made.


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tehlord
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With one exception, the guys who switch to Reaper and spend the rest of their lives trying to convince the world that it's the best DAW ever made.


I know!

When everybody knows it's actually Logicbase.


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quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Evolution of the electronic music producer:

0-2 years: Raging asshole fanboy of one DAW, which happens to be the only DAW they have ever used.

2-5 years: DAW bouncer, changing every 12-24 months.

5+ years: Every DAW is a piece of shit and I'm just going to stick with the one that makes me hate the universe the least.


This is Juan Paolino style.

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quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
Dubturbo DAW man im serious. Armin van buuren and Cryophonik just get paid by logic to sell their shit(4 real scammers).



Anything else is just a waste of time, check out this review. Just buy it.
cyro gets paid by cakewalk.

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