arising from the recent incident of the US spy plane (if u don't know what i'm talkin abt, u need some contact w/da outside world)....
who do u think should be blamed??
the chinese or the americans?
or both perhaps?
i need to settle a debate with friends about this hehe..

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i'm gonna have to go with the americans on this one...the government has been toying with the territory around asia for quite some time now. this is no different.

i remember there was one time when a US sub rose from beneath the sea and HIT a japanese boat full of students and stuff. the boat flipped and turned, people died! wtf is that?! you'd think a SUB with alllll the open water (this is a fn ocean) they would have realized that there was a boat there...there's also a thing called radar too.

the US government wishes to continue to reign supreme as the world's superpower...but what lengths does the government have to go through? china, japan, russia even rival the US to a certain degree...

now i know i'm gonna get flamed for this post. but i'm sorry everyone. that's just my opinion.

peace

I heared about this. But I really dont care who has to be blamed. As long as they stay away from Holland with their damned spy planes its fine by me

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hehe. i care cause it's ma home country.

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Originally posted by -=WVG=- I heared about this. But I really dont care who has to be blamed. As long as they stay away from Holland with their damned spy planes its fine by me

LMAO!!!!!! hehee! er...thinks the same even though im here in the us..lol

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I blame that f*cking Bush-bastard,he's just an asshole!
Why couldn't he make those apologies earlier,he made them anyway!And then his ridiculous speech aferwards
"It shows what sacrafices must be made by men and women ,to behold freedom" that guy is a total freak,they should lock him up!It's like he's playing with his little wartoys,and .... he looks like a monkey!

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Originally posted by cyberia Why couldn't he make those apologies earlier,he made them anyway!

Dude thats the NEW way how the american presidents do things .. remember clintion/lewinsky!! NO i didnt do it!!! no no!! didnt happen!!... Yeah im sorry...

Now.. Spy plane?? what spy plane?? Ooh we were doing nothing up there.. Yeah were sorry..


Wut you ripped out all our technologie so you can use it on us?? Yeah we are really smart!! Go land of the free!!

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Its the Chinese, read below.... The plane was in neutral territory, so how can either country be blamed for anything... Its the Pilot of the Chinese plane who should get the blame if anyone.... Its an accident, too bad they have to make blame such a big issue.

Even some Chinese officials said that China has to get tough on the Americans since the people felt after the embassy bombing in serbia that China let the US off way too easy.. Its amazing but the people who are quite well brainwashed are out for blood because of this collision, thus the Chinese government were stubborn pricks in this latest "incident" to show the people of China that the Chinese government is not afraid to stand up to the US...

Its especially more obvious that this is the major reason because China asked for an apology.. They wanted to have the president of the US say Sorry so they could play this to all of the Chinese and say "Hey look the Americans said sorry because they are afraid/respect/fear us"

Who's at fault, well a fast moving plane colliding with a slower prop plane its pretty simple really. My brother who's a pilot said this isn't even a debate, the fact a faster plane slammed into a prop plane proves only one thing, the slower plane is not at fault, they had little warning to maneuver out of the way... Its pilot error by the Chinese pilot.

But this was just an oppertunity for China to flex its muscles to prove to its citizens that they don't let American push them around, and also to hopefully have the Americans being more cordial when Taiwan gets discussed next.. Thats probably another big reason, Taiwan and arms trade is a HUGE issue for the Chinese right now...

OK, sorry for the rant.... I try to avoid political discussions, but this one interests me

the chinese fighter pilot was flying a much more manuverable aircraft. the recon PROP plane can't do shit to the jet. The jet was trying to spook the us plane and fucked up...period. thor is right, the chinese were just flexing their muscles and looking for a little respect from the world. I'm sure the US made 'outside' deals in order to release the aircrew from china...more talks with china will take place next week. This stooopid shit ain't over yet...
BUSH is a fucking retard...I'm from texas and even I don't like him. The FED's are prolly going to screen this thread...late.

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Chinesse!...they had fighter pilots in the past that came 10feet away from the american plane...and this was just a thing where the Chinesse fighter pilot try to act all macho and try to scare the US pilots by playing to close and well it hit the US plane... thats what i think happened......
anyone with a thinking mind would know that US wouldnt do shit like that..especially with a spy plane....first of all its so bulky and would be hard for them to really be able to hit a Jet....second...with all the secret information on board and all the crew members..why the fuck would they want to do that...risk there lives and everyone on the board...and risk all the equipment and secret information to the chinesse....... and i think as for us well American..they have to act smart and kinda give in just to make the Chinesse feel little better about them selfs..cuz China is the last country the US would want to get in a major conflect with!!!!

i blame Jos

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Do you know what's funny but? That Chinese pilot's name was (truthfully):

Wong Wei (Not sure on spelling)

But that's pronounced Wrong Way to us, which was certainly what happened when his plane hit the ground! BTW why didn't he eject? Probably more going on than you think...

I couldn't resist posting this but...lol