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Greedy
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: NoVA/DC
advanced mixing

mixing trance music is boring to me. Ive gotten to the point now where I can plop down record #1, beatmatch #2 to #1 in about 10 secs (sometimes ), then walk away for about 5 minutes and come back and mix in #2. Im exaggerating, but you get the idea.

I dont have an effects option on my mixer so my question is, what do you do MUSICALLY to spice up a trance song??? Is anyone brave enough out there to scratch to it? For tek house music, i like to do cuts,scratch etc.

Im djing at this party this weekend and its gotten to the point where i hate ppl staring at me work with trance and theyre waiting for me to do something cool like scratching.

I need tips and pointers besides jumping up and down and waving my records in the air to get the crowd pumped.

Thanks.


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Old Post Sep-25-2002 04:59  Vietnam
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Joshva
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Sydney

I'm not so sure about scratching with Trance. But you could try layering. That's pretty cool.


For example in a build up e.g. DJ Snowman - and then they start to dance (Jam X & De Leon remix I think)

After the first 32 beats of the build up add in an extra big bass for the remaining 32 beats of the build up. That makes the build up alot bigger, more oompf! You could nick the bass beats from a track like Rank 1 - Awakening (Cosmic Gate Remix) the first 32 beats is just strong bass beats. Also a good time to use the looping on your CDJ unit if you have one. As you could loop the bass of cosmic gate into an 8 beat loop. Giving you that added bass when and where you need it for another track.


Another example of layering is in the second build up of a track layer over the top the first build up of another track. Then instead of going back into the first track (after the build up) actually go straight into the second track. That is a really nice way to mix and get some energy going. The best example of this I have heard is on Mark Dynami'x - Club Nation CD. He gets the Bells from the Shiva's club mix of Dreams and uses that build up over the second build up of T.W.M. by Tin Tin out (Jam X mix).

Cheers, Josh

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hey cheggy
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia

Joshy, what's up boy.

Busy child, do you have any techno. I sometimes mix a bit of techno trebel and midrange over the top. Sounds pretty cool in some cercumstances.


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migitymike
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: san antonio, USA

get a third table
mix techno into your trance..to get rid of break downs..have fun

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Joshva
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Sydney

I finally got on the bloody board, yay!

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migitymike
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: san antonio, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Joshva
I finally got on the bloody board, yay!
oh no a N00B!

sorry..im joking..im a n00b***cough*cough*bullshit*cough*cogh***...watch out!

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Tony Morello
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

yea... so now what you do is actually mix...
bring in parts of the second track and layer them in, then drop them out how you see fit only to wind up bringing then back in later...

mix the whole song, not just the intro and outros


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MERiDiAN5i2
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Texas, USA
Re: advanced mixing

quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
I need tips and pointers besides jumping up and down and waving my records in the air to get the crowd pumped.



i got a trick for you

try this... take said trance record that they are getting bored with... hold it up in the air while you turn up the gain on your mic connected to the mixer and scream 'see this fawkin boring piece of wax??! and shatter it into 50 pieces on the dancefloor in front of them.

then lay into a 160bpm 4/4 banger and keep on

lol...

but really... trance gets SOME of the crowd going.. usually the female side. try breaking into some pitched down hardhouse or pitched up tech house. I can only stand to drop 4 or 5 straight trance records per set, it kills the nrg.

-mer

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petro
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Toronto

i guess you should try and read the crowd, track selection, etc
i donno what else to say

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Dj Flesch
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Indianapolis, USA

This is where you have to take mixing to the next level. You're probably thinking, I've learned how to beatmatch/phrasematch etc as well as I possibly can. There is nothing more to do and I've gotta move on to something else that is challenging for me as a DJ. Well, chances are, you've not even mastered trance. Your mixing skills are only limited by your imagination. If you are bored as a dj, then it is your job to find something to do during those "boring" periods. Try getting an effects processor like a khaos pad or something similar. Get a third deck, or learn how to tease tracks. Teasing is basically playing the awesome beats etc of the upcoming/cue track during the live track. Not only does this keep you busy, but it is in effect making your own track too! If you don't have the money/don't want to get an effects processor, then try using the eq channels more. Kill the bass right before a buildup and then kick it back in just as the main beats come back and you can rock the floor!

As I said, try something more than beatmatching, because unitl I see a cd album from you/make it big, there is always something more that you can do!

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Joshva
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Sydney

Yeh that bass trick with the eq is great. Another way is when the final drum roll on the build up is happening but just before that first beat hits. Increase the bass as the drum roll builds up. Sounds awesome. Remember though don't increase it too much you don't want to blow your system (Look at the LEDs on the mixer to make sure it is not too much)

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bassaholix
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia
Hello! What's ur deal man?

migitymike


Wats UP? ur like all negative and shit all the time all around the boards...

And for god sakes change that signature of ur's.. its really lame!!

LOL looks like a *NEWBIE* made that shit!!!


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