I'm having a tough time deciding which event I want to go to. I've always wanted to see Solarstone live and the lineup overall is pretty great, except that I will already be seeing Bryan Kearney and Guiseppe Ottaviani at Global Connection. PvD at space for NYE was fucking great and left me wanting more. He will also be playing "nearly the whole night" according to him in a video, which would be pretty cool. PvD is $30 and Pure Trance is $40. Thoughts?

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Originally posted by Carpe Noctum I'm having a tough time deciding which event I want to go to. I've always wanted to see Solarstone live and the lineup overall is pretty great, except that I will already be seeing Bryan Kearney and Guiseppe Ottaviani at Global Connection. PvD at space for NYE was fucking great and left me wanting more. He will also be playing "nearly the whole night" according to him in a video, which would be pretty cool. PvD is $30 and Pure Trance is $40. Thoughts?

Keep in mind my idea of REAL trance doesn't necessarily mean its what you think trance is. My idea of trance is anything that isn't infused with electro house or dubstep, which in my opinion is what is the current iteration of trance. That being said...

It's ultimately up to you man, but for me PVD is a huge bust if you want some real Trance. To be honest the last time I heard a full night of REAL trance was at Pure Trance last year during WMC. I went and saw PVD in Glasgow during my trip to Scotland but I wasn't really expecting much from the guy. Luckily Sneijder was on the ticket as well, but I was lucky enough that they had a side room full of local trance guys who were blasting high bpm sets the whole night. Glad that was there because as predicted PVD started off well but then relegated playing dubstep farts and electro house.

I may sound like I'm a nitpicky asshole but I find it hard to dance when one moment your going 130-40 bpms and all of a sudden the dj drops a song that is the equivalent of heavy metal headbanging music. It's like going to a classical music concert and then halfway through a song Pantera cuts in and starts playing.

Another thing to mention is that the Pure Trance party will more likely be more comfortable for dancing and won't feel like a sardine can and the crowd will probably be more friendly. Space on the other hand could be packed and usually during conference attracts some not so friendly people.

I'm also giving you this point of view from a person that is on the club floor, I know some people on here tend to disagree but they also don't tell you that they usually buy tables and thus their experience is much different than the general club goer.

TL;DR: I wouldn't go to a PVD show if you paid me.

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Pure Trance I would do

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Originally posted by chillenandy321 Pure Trance I would do

+1 for Andy.

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Originally posted by Pantone199c Keep in mind my idea of REAL trance doesn't necessarily mean its what you think trance is. My idea of trance is anything that isn't infused with electro house or dubstep, which in my opinion is what is the current iteration of trance. That being said... It's ultimately up to you man, but for me PVD is a huge bust if you want some real Trance. To be honest the last time I heard a full night of REAL trance was at Pure Trance last year during WMC. I went and saw PVD in Glasgow during my trip to Scotland but I wasn't really expecting much from the guy. Luckily Sneijder was on the ticket as well, but I was lucky enough that they had a side room full of local trance guys who were blasting high bpm sets the whole night. Glad that was there because as predicted PVD started off well but then relegated playing dubstep farts and electro house. I may sound like I'm a nitpicky asshole but I find it hard to dance when one moment your going 130-40 bpms and all of a sudden the dj drops a song that is the equivalent of heavy metal headbanging music. It's like going to a classical music concert and then halfway through a song Pantera cuts in and starts playing. Another thing to mention is that the Pure Trance party will more likely be more comfortable for dancing and won't feel like a sardine can and the crowd will probably be more friendly. Space on the other hand could be packed and usually during conference attracts some not so friendly people. I'm also giving you this point of view from a person that is on the club floor, I know some people on here tend to disagree but they also don't tell you that they usually buy tables and thus their experience is much different than the general club goer. TL;DR: I wouldn't go to a PVD show if you paid me.

It's funny because I was going to mention that the reason why I liked PvDs set during NYE so much was because the entire set was surprisingly darker and faster than usual -- a lot closer to real trance that one would expect. The BMP was thumping and there really wasn't that much cheese. If it wasn't for that set at NYE, I would'nt be having this dilemma right now. Actually, as a matter of fact, the last time I saw him before that, which was in Tally, I couldn't believe how hard he started dropping the 138 towards the end of the set. The bass was insane. Then again, this was only at the very end of his set.

Is there anyone that went to see PvD for NYE that can vouch for me?

Idk, I might just give Pure Trance the shot just because that's a once a year experience.

To the contrary, I had a horrible time at Pure Trance last WMC. Pvd all the way, but that's not saying much.

Was kristina sky there cuz i think she's good, she plays uplifting

Pure Trance Friday will be good only for Bryan Kearney and Guiseppe Ottaviani. PVD is very skeptical lately doing his shows.

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Originally posted by ucforange To the contrary, I had a horrible time at Pure Trance last WMC. Pvd all the way, but that's not saying much.

Why the horrible time, if you don't mind me asking?

go to space but buy a terrace ticket that will get you access to the whole club. even if pvd sucks you'll have amazing music on the terrace and in the loft.

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Originally posted by Carpe Noctum Why the horrible time, if you don't mind me asking?

He doesn't like the uplifting sound, actually he hates it.

See I would love to think that PVD plays consistently the way you are saying Carpe, but I just can't. To be fair though the guy doesn't play Trance anyway, here's a quote of his "To be honest, I don’t call my music trance music, I call it electronic music and it’s usually danceable." Which is great for him now because what is being labeled Trance music is just really electronic dance music. I do know someone on this forum that went to PVD on NYE and he said it was good but definitely not as good as some make it to be. Now when I saw PVD at Mansion in the fall of 2011 he blew me the fuck away. In fact it was a double header weekend, PVD played Friday and Armin played Saturday. PVD played a super trance set that night, while Armin was already beginning the cheeser that he is today.

Lastly, the way I see things (for me at least) is we live in Miami. Outside of conference you rarely, and by rarely I mean not at all, see Solarstone, Giuseppe, Kearney, Orkidea, and Kristina Sky. Unless you travel to shows extensively your trance selection in Miami is generally the same dj's year in and year out like Markus and a few others. PVD plays in Miami at least once or twice outside of conference, but again man its your money and your decision. You gotta be selfish in these situations because only you knows what will get you going at a party. If you loved PVD go there, you probably won't be disappointed.

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You can defend them all you want, in fact I admire you for doing so, but don't you find it a little suspect that whenever these characters change their style and sound - it's always a "coincidence" they select whatever sound happens to be "popular" that month? - John Askew

A lot of artists today are just victims, not having control, and they're not free. And that's pathetic. If you start being dependent on money, then money has to reach a point to fit your expenses. - Thomas Bangalter

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Originally posted by Pantone199c He doesn't like the uplifting sound, actually he hates it. See I would love to think that PVD plays consistently the way you are saying Carpe, but I just can't. To be fair though the guy doesn't play Trance anyway, here's a quote of his "To be honest, I don’t call my music trance music, I call it electronic music and it’s usually danceable." Which is great for him now because what is being labeled Trance music is just really electronic dance music. I do know someone on this forum that went to PVD on NYE and he said it was good but definitely not as good as some make it to be. Now when I saw PVD at Mansion in the fall of 2011 he blew me the fuck away. In fact it was a double header weekend, PVD played Friday and Armin played Saturday. PVD played a super trance set that night, while Armin was already beginning the cheeser that he is today. Lastly, the way I see things (for me at least) is we live in Miami. Outside of conference you rarely, and by rarely I mean not at all, see Solarstone, Giuseppe, Kearney, Orkidea, and Kristina Sky. Unless you travel to shows extensively your trance selection in Miami is generally the same dj's year in and year out like Markus and a few others. PVD plays in Miami at least once or twice outside of conference, but again man its your money and your decision. You gotta be selfish in these situations because only you knows what will get you going at a party. If you loved PVD go there, you probably won't be disappointed.

I might just go to Pure Trance for the exact reason you stated -- it will be almost impossible to see them outside of conference.