Hello folks, got a problem that has been annoying me these last days.

Basically, if I try to automate/low pass the filter cutoff on my pads buss for example, it will low pass the pads, but not the reverb I've set as a send. In order to low pass everything, including the reverb, I have to put my filter cutoff as an insert on the actual channel and not on its buss. So, if I have 3 different pads channels I have to put on each one of these a filter plugin. That's a waste of resources imo and I'd like to know if there is a workaround to avoid all this.
If I put the filter on my master channel it will low-pass everything, but that's not a solution imo.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong?

Nope

Most mixers still only offer pre / post fader sends.

You will have to send the output to a bus and then use the send fx on that new aux channel.

Or you can duplicate the fx on the reverb.

Nothing wrong. Just a throw back to limitations of mixers early daws were modelled on.

In your instance. , send 3 pads to filter aux. then aux to fx send aux, the. Send to reverb.

This is why I use stuff like bidule and Vsl ensemble.

Of course you an be sneaky and send all 3 to one bus, send the output 100 to reverb, and the. Use the sends to buss the dry signal using pre pre fader so you can control how much is sent to the reverb with the dry being unaffected by the fader.

Honestly. Tricks you would do years ago when a filter was raking CPU.

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Last edited by Looney4Clooney on May-08-2014 at 17:10

Send the pad group and the reverb to another channel in Cubase and put the filter on that.

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he might have other things using the reverb not being filtered.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney he might have other things using the reverb not being filtered.

Exactly.

So Looney, if I understood correctly: I should engage the reverb send on the bus-filter instead on the 3 pad channels?

And if I'd like to apply different amount of wetness to each pad?

Let me suggest another option.
Bounce down the part(s) of the track you want to filter.
All in one file (three pads + reverb), import it back, and just filter that.
Fastest way IMO, but you'll have to commit to it,
if you're going to be tweaking the synths and reverb a lot...try something else.

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Originally posted by farris Let me suggest another option. Bounce down the part(s) of the track you want to filter. All in one file (three pads + reverb), import it back, and just filter that. Fastest way IMO, but you'll have to commit to it, if you're going to be tweaking the synths and reverb a lot...try something else.

Yep. I do mess a lot with the reverb during the mixing process.

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Originally posted by future_newbie Exactly. So Looney, if I understood correctly: I should engage the reverb send on the bus-filter instead on the 3 pad channels? And if I'd like to apply different amount of wetness to each pad?

nope, you have to have a redundant channel with no fx as the path of most mixers does not allow post pre fx sends.

so A

PADS - BUS ( filter ) - BUS ( send to reverb )

B

PADS - BUS ( filter ) output to reverb buss, sends to aux channel containing the dry signal. Use pre fader sends so you can lower the output and keep the send at the same level alowing to vontrol the wet signal

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Why not use the reverb as an insert instead of a send?

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Duplicate the original reverb send and use just one of them for the pads, then route them as I suggested earlier.

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how great would it be to insert sends at any point in the fx chain, i dont think thats too much to ask

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney nope, you have to have a redundant channel with no fx as the path of most mixers does not allow post pre fx sends. so A PADS - BUS ( filter ) - BUS ( send to reverb ) B PADS - BUS ( filter ) output to reverb buss, sends to aux channel containing the dry signal. Use pre fader sends so you can lower the output and keep the send at the same level alowing to vontrol the wet signal

How can I thank you man???

Never thought about that path before. Eye opening...