Hi friends,

Before y'all ask, I have googled this problem and the solution I came across on the official ableton website did not work at all for me. So although I have been getting this error occasionally on a rather large project I'm working on that I didn't bother making efficient, recently it has gotten to the point where I can't open the project without it immediately crashing. If I knew this would happen I would have immediately started deleting used tracks/clips, mixing down to audio and disabling unneeded plug-ins. But, I can't now because I can't even open the project!

What was suggested on ableton's help page was that I can drag and drop the individual tracks from my project, using the Ableton browser, into a new project, and freeze and flatten them there which should reduce the load of my original project. However, maybe because I am using an older version of Ableton, or by some other black magic, I cannot drag and drop the tracks from the browser into the new project. Which sucks huge balls.

I was wondering if y'all had any tips so I can work on my lovely project. Thanks and I appreciate it!

-MNW

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Originally posted by mnw479 Hi friends, Before y'all ask, I have googled this problem and the solution I came across on the official ableton website did not work at all for me. So although I have been getting this error occasionally on a rather large project I'm working on that I didn't bother making efficient, recently it has gotten to the point where I can't open the project without it immediately crashing. If I knew this would happen I would have immediately started deleting used tracks/clips, mixing down to audio and disabling unneeded plug-ins. But, I can't now because I can't even open the project! What was suggested on ableton's help page was that I can drag and drop the individual tracks from my project, using the Ableton browser, into a new project, and freeze and flatten them there which should reduce the load of my original project. However, maybe because I am using an older version of Ableton, or by some other black magic, I cannot drag and drop the tracks from the browser into the new project. Which sucks huge balls. I was wondering if y'all had any tips so I can work on my lovely project. Thanks and I appreciate it! -MNW

Let step back for a sec and use elimination process to figure out what is the source of your problem? - is this happening with every project you are opening or only the old ones? - I ask because I had the same problem on my project save with Live 8 and couldn't open in Live 9.

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It's definitely because the project is very large and I slapped a bunch of big ticket plug-ins on it without a second thought. Other smaller projects do not have this problem, so by that process I figured it definitely had to do with the above. Furthermore, out of memory means my PC lacks procesing power, which would be a result of an intensive project.

I'm really asking about a way to access my project and tweak it to make it lighter on the system. I would even consider reverting it to a previous version, but right now none of it is accessible to me.

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Originally posted by mnw479 It's definitely because the project is very large and I slapped a bunch of big ticket plug-ins on it without a second thought. Other smaller projects do not have this problem, so by that process I figured it definitely had to do with the above. Furthermore, out of memory means my PC lacks procesing power, which would be a result of an intensive project. I'm really asking about a way to access my project and tweak it to make it lighter on the system. I would even consider reverting it to a previous version, but right now none of it is accessible to me.

Let me get it straight -> my problem was that some of my projects was save on rev 8 and I couldn't open it on rev 9 because one or two plug-ins where not install on 9 lol so I was crashing every time I tried to open it - my solution was to take it back to 8 with all of my pre-install plugins and find out which of those plugins are missing in 9 lol then remove that particular one and save.

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Let me get it straight -> my problem was that some of my projects was save on rev 8 and I couldn't open it on rev 9 because one or two plug-ins where not install on 9 lol so I was crashing every time I tried to open it - my solution was to take it back to 8 with all of my pre-install plugins and find out which of those plugins are missing in 9 lol then remove that particular one and save. Darek

Gotcha. Unfortunately, that doesn't help with my problem.

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Originally posted by mnw479 Gotcha. Unfortunately, that doesn't help with my problem.

Project size have never been a problem for me - I have some with 50-70 tracks/layers and even with may old computer (only 8gb of ram) I was able to open it without any problem lol

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Do me a favor:

Open up your task manager / system resources, then open the ableton project.

What does the little RAM graph show?

Report back....

When dragging the tracks over click and hold in on the track but don't let go till you see a little arrow or plus sign (can't remember from the top of my head which it is).. It can take a few seconds to appear so wait then release the mouse button..

I'm assuming you can't just open an earlier saved file of your project, you should be saving them xx1, xx2, xx3 etc.. If your using kontact or omnisphere (or what ever else that could use lots of ram) you could remove it from your vst folder so live will load your project without it and then you can make changes to you tracks to lighten the load and then insert the vsts back into the folder and reload.

Give it a try

Missing plug-ins may/will be causing your Live session to crash.

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ran into this with 32bit because I unknowingly built all my drum kits in Simpler which loads everything into RAM

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Project size have never been a problem for me - I have some with 50-70 tracks/layers and even with may old computer (only 8gb of ram) I was able to open it without any problem lol Darek

Well you see I have 150+ tracks on this project, not because it's super complex but because I'm really disorganized and didn't bother to clean it up after working on it for so long. So a lot of plug-ins and clips are hanging out that I'm not using which is killing my RAM I think.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Do me a favor: Open up your task manager / system resources, then open the ableton project. What does the little RAM graph show? Report back....

That's not possible because the program crashes if I try to load the project lol. Unless you mean just opening a new track and checking that? Or opening the project and checking when I immediately get the crash error?