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| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
I think you'll find the VOP library a little too inflexible, since they're essentially sampled phrases, and not really a lot of ooh/aahs. Of course, you can always bounce them to audio and change the phrasing, melody, formant, etc. in Melodyne, Antares, etc. I think the Kontakt libraries will give you more of what you're looking for because they tend to give you more flexible keyswitches, the ability to build your own phrases, not to mention that its sample editing and scripting will open up a world of new options to you. |
Once again, really thanks for the advice. Is that a a VST though? Like it's not just a sample bank but it's like a VST sampler plugin? See, I was thinking I would/should try to stay native with ableton and try and use its 'SAMPLER'(it's called sampler) as the morphing/cutting tool.....it's really powerful....the problem is that if it's not made for ableton as a "pack" like Olyumpus choir was....it might be just easier and better to use a 3rd party plugin........this is important decision for me, because I really do not want to use any 3rd party stuff. I feel like ableton suite has all the tools. But to get real flexibilihty with the solo vocals, I don't know if ableton has that capactity, at least it might be doable but iut might take alot of extra work....
The thing is.....like you said, key change flexibility and keeping a good quality tonality is important to me....this could work with a small variety of different samples but alot of flex and maintaining the integrity of the sample.....or VS.....you have LOTS of different samples over a wider set range but there isnt really flexibility with each sample.
You see with my Olympus choir, it's set up specific for abletons sampler, so you have ah ih eh oh ooh mmm, and within each bank there is like over a hundred tone changes so you can change the key perfectly and maintain all the tonal quality....for choir though you arent going to be trying and warping morphing the samples really, it's more structured....but solo voc, it would have to have some good flexibility to really play around with it....buying a bank and using the ableton sampler would work, the sampler is really amazing...it's got lfos everything, multiple routing, pitch envelopes, everything, but it's not SPECIFICally designed for vocals....so this leafs to the 3rd party plugin thing i was asking about....is that the case? if it's just a bank....no plugin, then i don't have any choice, i have to use th eableton sampler.....but im' going to have to import and hand-design the whole ranges, and fade ranges etc for each sample...that's going to be a serious bitch. hmmmm....so thkning this through....idk, i hope theres a 3rd party plugin, but i dont want to use plugins...even when i use Max4live, it's so fucking undependable. it crashes, max is a piece of garbage if you ask me...theres way to many bugs in it, and it sucks the cpu dry.
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