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trancedfarmer
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Seattle, Washington
Can We sustain ourselves with petroleum?

Obviously one of the largest poltical / social issues in the world right now. With quantities dwindling world wide, new sources are obviously becoming much more necessary. the fact that so much of what we accomplish relies on such a minute resource boggles the mind (or atleast my mind).

My belief is, is that the same companies that jumped on the bandwagon to make oil used exclusively, will all start searching for alternative methods now in order to sustain themselves. the only solution i see fit is housing many different sources of energy, spreading the demand out accross a greater plane...

What do you feel about this topic in general, and specifically, what other energy sources do you feel are capable and realistically appicable to our dire need for energy?

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jp
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Holland

For electricity we can use wind power (Coastal areas), solar power (warm areas) or hydropower (mountain areas)

The alternative to petrol will be hydrogen or natural gas

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Robert
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fusion power... one day..

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Stanza
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Sydney

Well, we can have water powered boats can't we?

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webmeister
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Sydney Australia

Science got us into this mess .. I'm sure it will pull us out too..

But we need real leaders with backbone, rather than politicians. This is a problem across the world, not just in any particular country..


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Avro
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: T to the zero

one day we can breed hampsters at a huge capacity, and make them run on a treadmill, so we can harness that energy.

its either that or fusion. may the race begin

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trancedfarmer
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the one good thing about this problem is that it is very blatant and obvious. no one can ignore the fact that we are consuming a massive amount of oil that took hundreds of thousands of years to come into being, within the short frame of one hundred-plus years.

I think if anyone suggests jumping to another resource and desires to tackle that one soley, their a fool (as many politicians wish to do). Obviously there is not one resource on this planet that can satisfy our inconcievable need for energy. The only imagineable way to possibly conquer this bitch, in my opinion, is to pluck energy from many different sources. Water, sun, wind, coal, natural gas... ect..

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Tranex02
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Registered: May 2001
Location: United States

well, the need for a new source of energy is definatly a priority.
But the oil we have now on earth will still last for atlease 20+ years. But as the demand for a new energy source increases, the development process, would also increase. Meaning once they really need another source, that's when they'll really put in an effort to find one, or begin using some of the available mothods, solar power, hydrolic, etc, and well, you still have some coal left...


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trancedfarmer
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think about the disrtibution of oil...

what will happen when there are dwindling quantities and some countries have a lot and some none ( as is the case already, but of course it will be much worse)..

WAR??....

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Tranex02
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Registered: May 2001
Location: United States

quote:
Originally posted by trancedfarmer
no one can ignore the fact that we are consuming a massive amount of oil that took hundreds of thousands of years to come into being, within the short frame of one hundred-plus years.


More like millions of years!
Almost all the oil comes from decomposed matter, that over many years, having the right pressure and temperature, have decomposed further to form oil.
For ex. the creatures in the sea, after they die, their remainings fall to the bottom of the ocean, and over a long period of time, and the very huge pressure,and right temp, turns into oil. that's kinda like a very basic way to see it...


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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

There are plenty other choices:

Cars -> here in Brazil, the government supports the use of cars that use alcohol instead of petroleum. There would be no need for "oil wars" in this case.

Electricity -> hhmmm... there's nuclear energy, but it does cause some pollution too. But there's also wind power, solar power, ....


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trancaholic
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Aalborg

quote:
Originally posted by webmeister
we need real leaders with backbone, rather than politicians. This is a problem across the world, not just in any particular country..


**applause**

Wind, wave, hydro and solar power is the way to go in my mind. Nuclear power is great as a intermediate step, but the resources are apparently to sparse for consumption by the entire planet for a prolonged period.

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