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I want to upgrade my monitors... BUT

... will I think its worth it?
... will they sound better?
... will my life be complete if i buy new ones?

I have a pair of M-Audio Bx8 studiophile monitors right now, the first i ever bought. I have been looking at the Genelec M040.
They are hot and sexy and would look good at my place. Chicks would probably dig them too. But how big difference is it between theese two? Would i regret it?

The Bx8 has an 8" woofer and m040 6,5". But bigger is not always better?

I cant go listen to them anyplace near right now so im just asking here.


Did YOU regret buying new monitors? Or is there no such thing as regret when we are talking about better sound?


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1. Buy the best monitors you can afford - else you will just want to keep upgrading
2. Invest in some room treatment or work in a room that requires little treatment

personally, i do a lot of mixing in my headphones these days - just use the monitors for a break from the headphones and for checking low end


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Originally posted by evo8
personally, i do a lot of mixing in my headphones these days - just use the monitors for a break from the headphones and for checking low end


This is pretty much my exact strategy as well.

I don't have the option of using a room with good acoustics, so I pretty much only rely on my monitors for checking the presence of lows compared to mids and highs. I almost always end up cutting the lows/low mids and boosting the highs after switching to my monitors.

However, I think understanding the limitations of your own setup may be more important than another incremental upgrade. I notice my mixing is getting better and better now when I am using headphones because I understand the general frequency response of my headphones. Sony MDR 7506 are very bright sounding, with very attenuated lows / low mids. Knowing that allows me to avoid overcompensating the lows/low mids as well as not being afraid to boost the highs past what sounds acceptable on my headphones.

Understanding the limitations of your room is similar in principal most likely. Things like knowing which bass frequencies being attenuated could make a big difference. You could then go on to fix that with treatment or position adjustment.

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^^ Any chance you could post a larger picture? I can't quite see that one.


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Genelec is a Finnish company, so you should always support them whether you need the monitors or not


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Genelec is a Finnish company, so you should always support them whether you need the monitors or not


As a finn born in sweden, I agree!



Zak McKracken:
What i heard M040 is almost like the 8040 but without any extras. Just good genelec sound. But i am not interested in the 8040. They are way too expensive.
I found the M040 for 465 EUR and the 8040 for 795 EUR. 465 EUR is more my budget. And with that price they are sexy!


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Those prices are for each right? Not a pair?
Yeah the 8040 are expensive which is why I suggested second hand.
I don't really know the new ones. Go and listen.


Yes thats right, for each. I have looked at second hand but 8040 are hard to find. And when i find them they still too expensive.


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What Evo and Nitride said is on the money. Buy the best you can afford and remember it's all about translation.

I've seen real pros (Score Mix Engineers) mix on the shittest monitors and get it right, because they know what the result will be, and the first time I was sat in front of $150k of B&W surround monitors, I couldn't make sense of anything I was hearing and it took like 3 months of near daily use to understand them.

I like Gene's but I've always found them harsh and give me fatigue, but that a personal thing. They are very details and pretty damn flat.

My advice is to go to the largest pro audio retailer near you, and try everything, and take meticulous notes on each one with your own reference music. Don't buy that day.

Go back another day and do it again, and see if your notes still make sense, and see which one really speaks to you. There were some I first thought were amazing but later realized it was trickery (Mackie HR824) and others that I didn't feel at first, but then realized they were actually great if I gave them a chance (Adams). I ended up with JBL's in the end because they were the right sweet spot of size, quality budget etc, but whatever you do, don't fucking buy KRK lol.

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I was actually about to buy Genelecs myself a few years back. I was already in the store with the money in my hand, but then on a whim I thought I'd try the Tannoys. I liked their sound much better, and got those instead. Choosing your monitors is mostly about preference at the end of the day.

I think the most important question is this: do you really need new monitors, or do you just want them?


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imho when you get to a certain price range then the difference is just down to the user and what they are hearing and what their room is like


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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I think the most important question is this: do you really need new monitors, or do you just want them?



I need a new couch. Thats what I need. Actually dont need new monitors since my bx8 work and sound ok. But I was thinking that I was missing out on something since they are a bit old and not top of the line. But maybe not.

Maybe I will just buy the new couch instead...


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