I'll express my feelings about this with a song:
https://www.beatport.com/track/be-m...nal-mix/9229046

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I've been banging on about wanting a drum machine/sequencer to fill in the gaps that my Electribe has, so Roland go an launch it on my fucking Birthday! Looks EXACTLY what I was hoping for: 808+909+midi+usb+10 outputs @ $400

How do the USB multi-outs work you have to use it as a soundcard or some shit?

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it just states that it does 10 outputs of audio via USB.

It's either going to be a driver or class compliant (plug and play) so basically it's got a soundcard in it for the outputs.

This is honestly what I've been hoping for for so long.

You can record both the midi and the audio of discrete tracks from a hardware sequencer, so it's piss easy to you want to swap out one of the sounds in your DAW.

It basically sounds like an 808 that will integrate with a DAW via both midi and audio over USB. Unless there's some glaring flaw with it, Roland might have fucking nailed it, and I for one will be happy to hear a glut of music over the next few years that goes back to 808 sounds.

EDIT: I misspoke earlier when I mentioned the 909 sounds. It's only 808.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN it just states that it does 10 outputs of audio via USB. It's either going to be a driver or class compliant (plug and play) so basically it's got a soundcard in it for the outputs. This is honestly what I've been hoping for for so long. You can record both the midi and the audio of discrete tracks from a hardware sequencer, so it's piss easy to you want to swap out one of the sounds in your DAW. It basically sounds like an 808 that will integrate with a DAW via both midi and audio over USB. Unless there's some glaring flaw with it, Roland might have fucking nailed it, and I for one will be happy to hear a glut of music over the next few years that goes back to 808 sounds. EDIT: I misspoke earlier when I mentioned the 909 sounds. It's only 808.

yeah cos its something similar with the TR-8 which put me off buying it, just wondering if this is a different system

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Originally posted by evo8 yeah cos its something similar with the TR-8 which put me off buying it, just wondering if this is a different system

Why? Did it suck?

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Why? Did it suck?

To use it as a soundcard on the PC you have to use it as the soundcard, meaning no audio output through your speakers or headphones.

Yes, really.

You have to aggregate on Mac too. It doesn't work like a Virus (for example).

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The biggest problem with these boutique boxes is that they're way too small. What's the point of buying VA hardware if you have to use a tweezer to use the fucking thing? At least the TR8 has reasonable sized knobs.

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Originally posted by tehlord To use it as a soundcard on the PC you have to use it as the soundcard, meaning no audio output through your speakers or headphones. Yes, really. You have to aggregate on Mac too. It doesn't work like a Virus (for example).

On PC that then sucks, but for a mac, no issue whatsoever; aggregate works just fine whenever I've had multiple interfaces.

Tbh though, it's ridiculous that windows still doesn't natively support more than one simultaneous audio interface, when mac has been able to do so for 10+ years

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Originally posted by tehlord f that's true it really blows. But I have had multiple sound cards before with no problem. They all had asio though. How would it then to sync midi tempo through USB with tr-08 and tr-09? No luck then? This is terrible if true, though if it had balanced outs I could live without USB. I'm bloody unsure about the whole boutique series but my nostalgia will probably win on 08/09 combo more than the tr-8 aria which probably is better but looks really terrible.

Again, no issue on mac, just aggregate your soundcards for real time output.

It has midi in and out for sync? But you can also do it via USB and a midi interface.

Balanced outs would be nice not really needed though, none of the original roland units were balanced. It would jack up the price by at least $300.

.....Oh, and the Tr-08 is only $349

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Originally posted by Woony The biggest problem with these boutique boxes is that they're way too small. What's the point of buying VA hardware if you have to use a tweezer to use the fucking thing? At least the TR8 has reasonable sized knobs.

I dunno. Unlike Trump, I have big hands and I don't see any of the buttons being tiny. They're smallish but I think you'd need Geoff's banana strangler hands to have a problem

The knobs and switches are what you'd find on a DJ mixer so not much issue there. I do get the small factor is annoying for studio use, but then they need to appeal to the portable market (and shipping, and storage etc) to make it viable so I understand.

I think they've nailed to be honest. $350 for an 808 with soundcard and midi? I don't see how it could really be better value.